Ask A Beta Tester: AABT's greatest hits, part 2

Hoops asked....
How much gold roughly would you get from questing 70-77 (until you unlock the flying mount)? I was wondering if it would it be worth farming money beforehand or would the money from questing be enough.
Elizabeth answers: I'm not 77 yet, so I can't exactly address the question as asked, but I can tell you that I've made about 400g leveling from 70 to 72. That's just from questing, vendoring trash & unneeded greens -- and it includes some stupid deaths, plenty of repair bills(I blame Dalaran for many of them!), and training a couple of professions (35g to train a primary profession to the next skill level and 100g to train a secondary profession to the next skill level).Allie adds: I finally started keeping track of how I was doing gold-wise while leveling. On the beta I leveled a lot through instance runs because the demand for healers was so high; on the live realms I've leveled mostly through questing. Between 70 and 76 so far (remarkably fast for me but my guild starts raiding next week) I've made somewhere in the region of 2K gold after training, repairs, professions, etc., mostly through questing and keeping my bags as open as possible to sell vendor trash. As Elizabeth observes, that part's key; Northrend vendor trash and greens sell for a LOT.
MaDaBr14 asked....
Is the Death Knight starting zone in the past? Some of the events and people in the instance has made myself and some friends wonder if you're starting in the past and once you leave its the current?
Elizabeth answers: After a lengthy chat with Daniel on this subject, I think it's safe to say that we agree that th Death Knight starting zone is slightly in the past to anyone playing in Wrath. By the time you leave the instance, you'll have caught up to the events of present-day Azeroth.Evan asks...
Are there any good spots for AoE leveling between 70 and 77?
Elizabeth answers: Zach recommends Zul'drak as an awesome place to farm, AoE-style. "The Undead are all so clumped together, especially east of Ebon Watch." Alex suggests that in the Howling Fjord at Valgarde and the Horde outpost above Vengeance Landing, they're under siege from an endlessly respawning stream of Valkyr. They award XP and they're pretty weak. As for level 80 money-grinding stuff, that'll probaby be something in Icecrown or Storm Peaks- level 78-80 mobs, but those zones aren't in the game yet.
Allie adds: Drakil'jin Ruins in Grizzly Hills used to be the site for AoE grinding, and that was in fact how Nymh managed his world-first-to-80 feat. Blizzard has since caught on to this technique and the mobs no longer give experience.
Alc asked....
How does Blizzard account for all the wanton slaughter of Dalaran folk by the Horde? How would a hordie get into Dalaran because of this?
Elizabeth answers: Not being Chris Metzen, it's tricky to answer this question. Dalaran was not treated kindly by the Horde in the Second War and even today in Silverpine Forest and Hillsbrad Foothills, Horde questlines encourage the killing of Dalaran's mages. So how exactly is Blizzard working around this minor problem? WoWWiki claims that Dalaran has been neutral since the Lands in Conflict RPG sourcebook, but provides no additional details. How Blizzard is going to make lore mesh with reality? We aren't sure yet, but we're keeping out eyes open.
Allie adds: On the live realms there's really no reference that I've seen to the old Horde's treatment of Dalaran, or the current Horde's dispute with the Dalaran mobs wandering Silverpine. Either the Dalaran mages of Northrend are pragmatists and know they can't do anything about Malygos without Horde assistance, or they've forgiven and forgotten, or -- well, I dunno. They're certainly aware that the vast majority of the current Horde had no involvement whatsoever in the previous wars, and that the Kirin Tor would not have existed without the contributions of the Blood (formerly High) Elves. So it's complicated.
Nizari asked....
Have you seen much of the Nordic influence that Wrath is supposed to have? I know you've discussed the Vrykul and the Val'kyr before, but I'm wondering if you've seen any more esoteric or obscure references? I'd find it mighty entertaining if there was a baker who sold Kransekake, or a cooking recipe to make Lutefisk.
Elizabeth answers: I think this question pretty much floored most of the team -- because none of us really experts in Norse mythology. Your friend and mine, Alex, had this to say about Norse influences in the expansion: There are the jormungar, of course, and the Avatar of Freya in the Sholazar Basin. The Avatar of Freya is a vaguely Druidic being that is battling the Scourge and Freya is one of the Titans. The Titans themselves are heavily inspired by Norse and Greek mythology.
Allie adds: Yes to krumkake. No to lutefisk. And I don't mean ingame, I mean out of game. Fish that is prepared with an ingredient usually used in commercial cleaners terrifies me.
In BC, we were treated to such disgusting quests as picking through Talbuk poop, fetching rotten eggs that cause you to projectile vomit, and rescuing Corki. What sort of unpleasant tasks will Blizz make players slog through in their desperation to get to 80?
Elizabeth answers: Of course Wrath has its own unpleasantries to deal with.... Daniel notes that there's a quest in which you get to sort through your own, uh, leavings in order to recover some seeds. Matticus tells us there's an Alliance quest in Borean that had something about Gnomes and a downed pilot -- you had to feed wolves because the wolves ate some fancy Gnome things and have to poop them out. Aren't you looking forward to the expansion now?
venumus asked....
As a Retribution Paladin, I rely on both spell crit and melee crit. Now that they are essentially one ability, does intellect and agility add together for one crit percentage?
Batium asked...
Can a warrior with Titans Grip dual-weld this fishing pole with another one for extra +fishing?
Alex answers: Nope. Titan's Grip doesn't actually let you dual wield any two-handed weapon. It specifies two-handed axes, maces and swords. It excludes things like staves, and I don't believe Fishing Poles have any classification at all. You can't use melee abilities with one equipped.
Allie adds: Not being able to dual-wield fishing poles is a smart move on Blizzard's part, because the rest of the game would have exploded from the sheer blinding awesomeness of it all. Then again, I say that as a hardcore fishing enthusiast.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Expansions, Lore, Leveling, Classes, Making money, Death Knight, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
homeconsumer Nov 18th 2008 5:17PM
Excellent ... I may get my epic yet. And oh yeah, first.
Ted Nov 18th 2008 5:30PM
Ugh
Busilak Nov 18th 2008 5:32PM
Are there any places to do dailies once you hit lvl 80?
Lemons Nov 18th 2008 7:16PM
From what I've seen in Northrend so far (I'm only lvl 74) is that there are a lot of dailies, but there's not really a "place" to go to do them (like sunwell isle).
Take the Kalu'ak's dailies for example. They have three dailies, but they're not all in one place , quite the contrary. Each daily is in a different zone! one in Borean Tundra, one in Dragonblight, and another in Howling Fjord.
This seems to be the way of it with the other factions as well. I see a lot of blue question marks hanging about, but never more than one in the same place.
But as I said I'm not level 80 yet so for all I know there's a huge daily-infested area in Icecrown or whatnot.
Adam Nov 19th 2008 7:57AM
In addition to a few rep-based ones scattered in the
Kirioth Nov 18th 2008 5:49PM
In regards to the question about unpleasant quests, there's a quest in Howling Fjord that has you hacking corpses with a machete.
Apparently murdering entire towns is no longer enough.
Arivia Nov 18th 2008 9:38PM
And then, when you turn the quest in, the quest giver takes his machete back gingerly and goes "You know how to use this far too well!"
Thander Nov 18th 2008 5:56PM
Can anyone give me a link to part 1? Search is broken on this site.
Allison Robert Nov 21st 2008 5:00AM
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/11/17/ask-a-beta-tester-aabts-greatest-hits-part-1/
X@tt Nov 18th 2008 7:39PM
ive made about 4000g so far just selling green rubbish and turning in quests, but for me what I did was BT > HF(50%) > DB > ZD (75%) > IC (90%) quests
Started northrend with about 1k gold, now I have 4090ish after buying my skills and cold weather flying
Hope that helps :)
Robert Nov 18th 2008 7:59PM
I have a question: Captain Constance of the Kraken wouldn't be using one of those new skins, would she? She looks...off.
Tyguy Nov 18th 2008 9:19PM
What is that weapon in the picture??
Allison Robert Nov 21st 2008 4:59AM
Hey Tyguy - the weapon is Stanchion of Primal Instinct, a 2H feral staff off of the Eredar Twins in Sunwell.
ketsugi Nov 18th 2008 10:11PM
There's also a quest in the Rivenwood in Howling Fjord that has you setting off firecrackers under bats so as to scare them shitless, quite literally. Then you collect their feces.
Also, with quests involving unethical experimentation on Vrykul prisoners, kidnapping of children, and Light-infused torture of a Scourge prisoner (this one may be more justifiable), I think we're definitely also seeing a darker, slightly more amoral side to WoW. This has been a very very interesting expansion so far.
Rugus Nov 19th 2008 4:46AM
I did those quests but I've never stopped "thinking" about any ethical stuff. But you made me think a little, I have to admit. I'm 33 years old, marrid with a cute little boy. What could I ever say, how could I "justify" the quest where you kidnap puppies or litterally *murder* people? If he will ask "why do you do that, daddy? Do you like it??" I admit I would find myself in a hard situation.
My "adult" answer would be plain simple: I play for fun, I really do not "see" what I am really doing (murdering, stealing, kidnapping, etc). I just like grinding, doing quests and visiting new zones, as well as upgrading gear and listening to the amazing music theme. That's all :|
Vorgaak Nov 18th 2008 11:56PM
Horde has a quest in HF where you have to saw 10 dwarves heads off to collect their brains and a quest in DB where you have to release a pack of rats to clean the flesh off of fresh human corpses. Yummy.
rawrawrawr Nov 19th 2008 1:41AM
I'm surprised how long it took for that rat quest to be mentioned. The worst part is the squelchy noises that the rats make as they eat.
Also, the whole DK starting quest chain is rather macabre, the loud screams really get me.
cameroo Nov 19th 2008 12:50AM
I'm more shocked that I've been replaceing my tanking gear with alot of green crafted plate stuff. There is some really nice gear out there that can be made with just a little bit of effort.
Wildhack Nov 19th 2008 6:49PM
I have a question for Ask a Something Something. It's my first time getting past 60ish, and I was wondering while I'm in Outland if I should focus on grinding rep while I still get XP for it, or if I don't even need to worry about Burning Crusade rep now that Wrath's out. Or should I wait and grind rep in Outland once I'm 80 and it's faster?
Thanks!