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11-25-2008 @ 9:07AM
Since we can only get one skill point of a node, why not just make mining nodes like herb nodes - 1 use and you get the full random load.Yes, this is only a game, blah-blah-blah, but people expend their time on it, thus giving it value in their eyes.If you ninja, if you grief, if you ignore the generally accepted conventions of polite behavior, then you are scum.
11-25-2008 @ 9:27AM
I'm a firm believer that if you hit the node first and some a$$hole comes out afterwards and starts mining it while you're there, then they're the a$$hole. Show some courtesty and let the person who arrived first mine the damn thing. It's rude to start mining on them when they're obviously there first. I had an undead do this to me, it annoyed the hell out of me.And for those people who jump down after you're fighting the pat that aggroed onto you and steal the node, there should be a TAG to player buff that lasts a minute that pretty much states. "THIS belongs to the person who was HERE first and who got stopped because of this damn pat." Nothing sucks more when you're in the area, YOU SEE IT FIRST, but on the way over mobs spawn and aggro onto you. Then the next guy comes over after you've invested time into killing this thing, usually when you're almost done, and steals it. Nodes should be taggable to the first person who gets there and if the person leaves the area in a certain radius, it can then revert back to free for all.It's funny how some people think entitlement is their right because they're NOT doing the work to clear to it. Um. Riight. These are the same people who bitch when the tables are reverse.
11-25-2008 @ 9:32AM
If you are mining/herbing where others are, they have just as much right to be there as you. I agree it is rude if they snag a node while you are fighting a mob, but on my mage I don't have a gathering prof. If I am fighting near nodes, should people have to wait for me only to find that I had no intentions for the nodes? Besides if someone is stealing nodes while you fight, wait for them to fight and steal their nodes. Or just leave the area. When farming primals I always leave when I see another player show up. It isn't like there aren't tons of places to farm. A debuff would just hurt people who really didn't "ninja" the nodes. What if you have a pocket body guard who is protecting you while you mine? Would you keep getting the debuff?
11-25-2008 @ 11:54AM
"I'm s firm supporter of "It's not your ore until it's in your bag.""What we have here is someone who is an ore ninja, or as we called them in EQ2, a "node humper". If he was the one being disadvantaged, you had better believe he'd be less inclined to promote the virtues of this behavior.You, sir, are vile. Your concept of fair play is horribly twisted, and I seriously doubt you extend these a-hole tendencies to real life for fear of having your face caved in.Remember kids, don't be a jerk in game unless you're willing to be a jerk in real life where someone can physically hurt you. Otherwise, you're just a coward.
11-25-2008 @ 11:27AM
WoW is a competetive game. I don't personally ninja anything from anyone, because i think its childish. I do compete with other people trying to ninja a node or quest item often enough that I have found my own ways of dealing with the competition. If they get it, so be it. There's more ore, and more quest items. I'll win my fair share, because I'm crafty too.
11-25-2008 @ 12:28PM
Call me skeptical but the posters who don't seem to have a problem with people taking a node you fought your way to are probably the very people who are doing just that. A rogue aggroing mobs onto you isn't clever in the least; people have been doing that for ages.
11-25-2008 @ 1:16PM
Ok, so everyone you people voted down, who was saying that ninja'ing was acceptable, awesomeness. There've been many times I'd fly into an area and wait to see if that priest fighting the scythe handed guy by the node was mining or not, before I started mining. Most of the time, they were, and that was just another opportunity lost to me. When I am landbound, I've even helped someone finish off the mob to find out if they were after the node or not.However, a post that you all voted down, seriously concerns me. Here we are in virgin territory, or Northrend, and as most of you who have ever used a gathering addon such as Gatherer, Cartographer mining, or Gathermate, my personal favorite, you will know that....... THERE IS NO DATABASE of Northrend. In the interest of making mining easier on EVERYONE by Sharing my data, I've been severely tempted to take a single hit on a mine that someone else was mining because it would put it in the database. I know of 3 separate nodes in little travelled areas that are not yet in my database, after multiple updates from wowhead. Why you voted down:Ulurjah said...@Worcester -- I routinely tap nodes that other people are mining. The failure still puts the node in my gatherer database. When the person is horde like me, I say in /say why I'm doing it... and they usually have no issue. Not everyone has nefarious intent.I don't know. Because while I will wait before mining near where someone is fighting, I'm tempted to do this myself. Do I support a software solution? Yeah, I think so. However, my problem with that is where do you stop. Personally, I want an instanced mining field. I don't want it too easy, but where exactly do you draw the line?On a final note...There's a mob by the node? So what, as a hunter, I just let my pet engage the mob, and I go after the mining node. A quick FD, and I'm golden. I do feel sometimes like I've got an unfair advantage. I just don't know where the solution lies.
11-25-2008 @ 3:36PM
To ninja is just rude, but it happens and on occasion it happens when the other player doesn't even realize. I was collecting crates and I grabbed one while the other player had yanked the mob just around the corner so he didn't aggro more. He came around the corner and said "man, I was fighting the mob to get that", so I helped him grab a bunch by smacking the mobs while he picked up. General rule is I always ask for or if I can invite someone to help. On ore, I may hover, but ask if the person fighting near mines - if no answer I wait, while sitting on the ore, if they were I let them have it - that's just polite.Now in the case of horde (since I am Alliance) I will on the occasion ninja from them. I got into a ninja battle with and Orc out in Netherstorm - getting the parts from the Ethereals. We sorta went back and forth - he started it, so I figure fair game. Never been in a ninja situation that was drastic enough to report or get overly upset about.
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