Note: the Horde in Northren are under the leadership of Garrosh Hellscream meaning there geting away doing things they would not do normaly in kalimdor they report to Garrosh not Thrall or Saurfang the elder

Information is power and Garrosh is playing most of his cards right personally i wish Saurfang would just chop his head and be done with it

i think that Varian is is pretty much Garithos: the last by the way drove the blood elfs to cut ties with the alliance do to racial hatred and the alliance is full of hate and is held together by a very thin tread

the horde in the other hand started on a thin tread and the more things change the tighter there bonds become do to the fact that they had challenges and had to over come them to trust each other

Thrall was forced by blizz to accept the Forsaken and the Blood elfs and now seems to be getting slammed for not knowing what everyone does at all times even when they go take a bathroom break.

Varion has pretty good cast of characters that could help him understand a none violent way but there just chilaxing and not helping him overcome his hatred and child like behavior

BTW orcs died with the alliance at the Wrathgate not any orc but Saurfang the Younger and Bolvar where down there i mean if u dont see that then something is wrong here pretty sure Saurfang would a snaped someones neck if he knew Thrall new the entire time that putress was going to murder his only son
and if i played alliance i be pretty proud of how Bolvar welcomed the Orcs to help them fight the undead u ditn see the hate u just saw brothers in arms.

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