Exploitation and the demise of Heroic Leap
There was a time in the beta of Wrath of the Lich King that Warriors everywhere were excited little special snowflakes. They had not one but two, count 'em two, special talents: Heroic Leap and Titan's Grip.While the dual wielding goodness/badness that is Titan's Grip continues today, Heroic Leap was removed mid-beta with Warriors everywhere screaming and crying. Yours truly shed a tear. I loved leveling through the Howling Fjord and Dragonblight with Heroic Leap at my side. One press of a button and bam – I'd be raining down upon my enemies with my plate shining and dual two-handers blaring.
Its demise has always been speculated upon. Many thought that the skill just provided one too many ways for a warrior to quickly move about the world. Others thought that it was due to it being too over powered in PvP. Still others thought it had to do with exploitation of the terrain.
It turns out that those folks who thought that exploiting the terrain was the reason for its demise were correct. Ghostcrawler weighed in on Heroic Leap's removal and gave this very reason.
When you think about heroic leap from a game stand point, it is an ability which avoids the majority of terrain, and thus limits on the player's movements, to get to a given mob. Is there a stump between you and that nasty spider you want to kill? Heroic Leap and wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, you're over the stump and standing on top of the spider beating the living daylights out of it.
It's this nature of placing the player at the mob while avoiding the majority of terrain paths that caused Heroic Leap's demise. Players could (and did) exploit this. Thus the ability had to go.
Ghostcrawler answered a criticism that the Death Knight's Death Grip did the same thing. He points out that with Death Grip you can assume the player is in legal terrain and pulling the mob to them. You can't reverse Death Grip and go to the mob. Thus if the mob is somehow in illegal terrain, it's not an issue. With Heroic Leap it would be.
Ghostcrawler does make an interesting revelation. He mentions that they had thought about making Heroic Leap a Blink or Disengage like ability. In the end they decided against it. But I have to believe and have hope that one day Heroic Leap might find itself back in the game with mechanics like Blink.
I can hope, right?
Filed under: Warrior, Analysis / Opinion, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Krenik Cho'gall Nov 27th 2008 2:07PM
Dude, if getting into illegal grounds was the problem......why not just add Line of Sight into the ability?
Clbull Nov 27th 2008 2:08PM
Didn't they allow Cat Form druids to leap into combat with Feral Charge? (I know its more of a Shadowsteppy sort of effect but still)
Anyway, I'm glad Heroic Leap was removed, because it would have given Warriors yet another ability to absolutely OWN hunters with. Because we all know that a hamstringed hunter can't get out of Melee range and is screwed from the start of the fight.
And even if they do? Intercept, Charge or (in this case), Heroic Leap.
Deadly. Off. Topic. Nov 27th 2008 2:53PM
This says nothing on the fact that giving Warriors Heroic Leap is another advantage they have over other plate classes.
Heilig Nov 27th 2008 7:14PM
"I know its more of a Shadowsteppy sort of effect but still"
This actually bolsters your argument, not the other way around. This functionality ALREADY EXISTS IN GAME. Claiming terrain exploitation makes it bad for warriors doesn't tell us why it's still okay for Rogues and Cat druids.
Just another example of Blizzard trying to come up with a reason besides "Yeah, this is just too much fun. Everyone will roll X class." The only class they haven't given this exact treatment at some point or another is druids, and that is simply because they're already a very complicated class, very few people reroll druids because they're OP, so it doesn't really affect balance too much.
Clbull Nov 28th 2008 2:21PM
You have a point actually. Cats have Feral Charge(Cat) and that makes them leap into the air.
WHY was the same functionality removed from Warriors for "explotiation" purposes.
Justin Nov 27th 2008 2:08PM
A good idea gone to waste. : /
Iiiice Nov 27th 2008 2:09PM
Im still wondering why they removed heroic leap for this reason but still left cat charge with SAME THING. Cat charge besides fails if theres lag..its no use.. daze/stun mob for 3 secs when you have to run into them anyway if you lag? Who cares (on PvE).. they should've made it shadowstep like
Killah Nov 27th 2008 2:10PM
To be fair, the spell could be use the same mechanics as Blink (eg. can't go upward hills, etc.) and just have the animation changed. That would kind of prohibit you exploiting the terrain.
Will Nov 27th 2008 2:11PM
just make it like blink where you get stuck on every little piece of bark or end up teleporting in the same spot in tunnels and I'm sure they'd put it back in the game
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Kakistocracy Nov 28th 2008 2:35AM
I can see it now, the big bad tauren warrior is charging towards the gnome mage, suddenly he leaps through the air and ends up five feet behind where he started.
Grumaya-Sargeras Nov 27th 2008 2:30PM
Yeah... Kitty form Pounce has done more than its fair share of letting me skip over "illegal" terrain. I've been stuck in holes before and used Pounce to get out, i've used it as a way to get away from other mobs/ganking players, and basically everything that the article said about Heroic Leap, i've done with Pounce.
Philip Nov 27th 2008 2:42PM
I think you mean Feral Charge (Cat). Pounce is what you usually do immediately after a Feral Charge (Cat).
Grumaya-Sargeras Nov 27th 2008 3:35PM
I did mean FC Cat, but it's Pounce. :P
Anowscar Nov 27th 2008 2:34PM
You can reverse Death Grip if whatever you're trying to Death Grip has Spell Reflect active. It's pretty funny actually.
Drewnami Nov 27th 2008 2:34PM
Shadowstep can be used for the exact same thing. I'm not seeing the logic.
minimagicman Nov 27th 2008 2:43PM
I really hope it comes back into the game with the exact same mechanics as blink. That way there can be 2 classes complaining about the broken spells and they might get fixed : ) I can only hope right?
Dusseldorf Nov 27th 2008 2:48PM
The main difference here is that shadowstep and feral charge (cat) both require you to target the mobs you're porting to, whereas heroic leap didn't require any mobs, it was like an aoe target spell.
prosper Nov 27th 2008 2:59PM
You know, I was doing the "For the Horde" achievement yesterday and I think the SW boss actually has this ability cause I saw it pop up midfight and though wtf, I thought this got removed. (I think I drew threat whilst DPSing on my spriest)
Cy Nov 27th 2008 8:39PM
He does. Only character in the game to have it.
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59688
Vellius Nov 27th 2008 3:03PM
Yeah they butchered the warlock deamon form ability too...
In beta we where jumping in the air and landing near the mobs.
Then they changed that to a kind of warrior charge...
You chane into a demon with wings but you cant use them....