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11-29-2008 @ 5:25PM
GC says that Blizzard certainly knows how to make tougher content, but they'd rather everyone got a turn this time around.Thats awesome, everyone should see all the content. Not just those without jobs, children or significant others.
11-29-2008 @ 5:33PM
Not just those without jobs, children or significant others.will these annoying commentors ever go away?it's not that hard to be good at this gameim tired of the "I have a RL" excuse from scrubsSome people are good, some people are not, like every other video gameif you suck at the game go hanfg out with your insignifgant others
11-29-2008 @ 5:55PM
Maarick, you're right, it is not hard to be good at this game, but that is not the point.What Bonelip is saying is that raiding for hours at a time outside of the other many hours spent in-game requires one to sacrifice time elsewhere. Given the absurd amount of time some people play this game, he believes it is safe to assume that they do not have more important responsibilities to attend to... or that they just ignore them altogether. I believe that is a safe assumption.Having a "real life" does indeed limit one's time, as surely you would know if you had a job, kids, the works... and calling someone a "scrub" for acknowledging the obvious is, well, less than pro, if you know what I mean. ;)
11-29-2008 @ 5:56PM
@MaarickFor many endgame raids, it's very rarely a skill issue. Sure, noobs weren't ever going to be killing Illidan or KJ back in TBC, but niether were those with little time to invest in WoW.A decent endgame raiding guild will raid about 4 days a week, for about 4 hours each time, at set days each week.For people with full time jobs, significant others or families, life can butt in way too easily. Son threw up, work colleague killed the network etc. Life will butt into your WoW time and you won't raid that night.If WoW was a single player game your statement would be faultless. However organising times for raiding is an issue for some of us with less time/less reliable time to invest into this game.
11-29-2008 @ 6:04PM
And I'm tired of people like Maarick flaming others for their opinions because they are so insecure about themselves that they feel threatened at the idea that they may be playing a game that is not tough enough for their "1337 skillz." t another idiot who needs to command respect through an online video game rather than in real life. Putting down others for making a comment is, like many others, his only way to feel tough and important. If you actually had a life and commitments, you'd probably understand that its hard to raid 5 nights a week with a job and a family, but since you most likely live in your parents basement with not so much as even a sweater overweight dude that you speak to through AIM, whom you believe is a girl and indeed you online girlfriend, you may understand that WoW raiding doesn't sometimes fit in people's schedules. I'm sure the pinnacle of your existence, and those like you, are the idea that people are walking past you in Dalaran, inspecting your big gear and thinking 'Wow, I wish I was that guy's friend IRL" (newflash, people aren't inspecting you - they're too wrapped up in their own gameplay, to care about yours).Well, if WoW has gotten too soft for you, try AoC, while its still around, or test your skills on WAR. The guys over at EA Mythic to have another WoW defect in their ranks, and you can take your BS posts and flaming over there.Oh, and calling people "scrubs" isn't cool either. That word was died back in 1991. I await for, what I'm sure will be a rebuttal along the lines of how my "wall of text" is too much for illiterates to read. That's fine. it would just prove a point that anyone who can't spend 45 seconds to read a little over a paragraph is probably better off living in their parents basement past the age of 40. There's a reason why the cash registers at McDonalds have icons of hamburgers and fries, rather than the words of the hamburgers and fries.
11-29-2008 @ 7:58PM
this is an MMO not fable 2
11-29-2008 @ 9:05PM
@ArchVile125,Took more than 45 seconds to read your post dude. You could skip read, you wrote it. I would've put it more at the 90 second mark, maybe 2 mins.Also, you are aware of the hypocrisy in slagging someone off for stating a comment about "scrubs" and generally being elitist, then going on to state they live in their parents basement and their only girlfriend is a heavy set guy from michigan. Horrid generalisation right there dont you think? In fact, i would say you comment was more full of hate then Maaricks original. He expressed a distaste for bad players blaming real life commitments for their bad playing. Well you know, I'm sick of those players too.And, this is rather picky of me, but. "A little over a paragraph" of text would indicate two paragraphs, one of significant length, one of maybe only a sentence. Your post is five paragraphs in length. Which i think most would agree, is quite a way over a paragraph, rather than a little.
11-29-2008 @ 10:24PM
@Fyve & Boomstick To make it even worse.. people actually voted up his post.Seriously, flaming in any direction is bad, but starting it."Thats awesome, everyone should see all the content. Not just those without jobs, children or significant others." I'm not sure if that was meant as such a bad flame as it turned into, but you're basically calling everyone who can dedicate some time to the game a no-lifer because YOU don't have the time putting time into a game, while there's hundreds of games out there that can be played and enjoyed other than world of warcraft.So, to the contrary, why can't "these people without jobs" also have a challenge in their game? You're already "winning" in real life, can't you let them have some fun as well, if this is actually your opinion.So sick of people telling others how to live their lives.(Just for a note, I've always WANTED to be able to dedicate enough time to be at the very top, but I've always been in guilds that I'm allowed to just raid maybe 2-3 days a week without getting kicked out, due to these so called "IRL"-thingies)
11-29-2008 @ 11:53PM
Yes, I am aware of the irony in my previous post, in which I used the same tactics that I was criticizing another for. It was intended to make a point. Perhaps I failed to make it more obvious in my post, that i was being extreme for a reason. The point I was hoping to convey is that the rest of us, like myself, can make grand sweeping generalizations about his lifestyle as well. Obviously, I can't know if he lives in his mother's basement, or if he has an "online relationship" with an overweight old dude. I don't know that guy anymore than he knew the life of the guy he chose to flame, or others in that similar situation.What I am willing to guess though, is that Maarick is making a criticism of a lifestyle he knows nothing about and making assumptions about how someone with that lifestyle can and should be able to live it. Maybe I'm wrong. maybe he's one of a few lucky folks who has kids of the right age that they don't require consistent attention, and a steady job that allows him plenty of free time and night, and a flexible guild that works into his raiding schedule. Maybe that's the case. I doubt it, but maybe. After all, I'm in a guild with a guild leader that has just that very lucky type of life that allows him plenty of time to not only raid, but set up raids and run them on a consistent schedule. I'm lucky to be in the raid, because it works into my busy schedule and was lucky to have cleared BT and part of Sunwell. The problem is, I'm not nearly as busy in my schedule as some others are, and even for me, it's tough. I've nearly backed out multiple times from losing sleep and even missing a few deadlines, which I promised I'd never do. Sadly, most WoW players have very busy, or unpredictable schedules (anyone ever work retail or are on call, say at a hospital?) It makes time management very difficult for a lot of people. So yes, I realize the irony in my previous post and I expected people to mention that. Frankly I'm surprised I didn't get nailed over my plethora of typos (the grammar police love me). Yeah, I'm a lousy typist. Usually I just glaze over those types of posts, but sometimes after seeing so many elitist posts from people with big mouths starts to build up on me, and now and again I see a post where...well my tolerance cup done runneth over, so to speak. It gets to the point where no one can express their feelings about something without some jackass coming back with cheap shots and holier than thou attitude towards someone who really didn't deserve that.It's a game, but elitists that want to complain or disagree with someone, sometimes like to treat the issues like its the Republicans versus the Democrats or something. it's not. The hardcore need to calm down, or if the game isn't good enough for them, wait it out or cancel their account for awhile and come back later. We're talking about a game whose mechanics can literally change over a Tuesday morning. And we've also not even yet seen any of the real endgame content. There is more to come, and Blizzard knows what they are doing. Not saying they are infallible, but they don't do things at random or make wild stabs in the dark when they make decisions about their game. As for this post -- it'll definitely take more than 40 seconds to read. I apologize for my poor discretion when calculating the time it would take to read my previous post. Let it be known that my math skills are just as pitiful as my typing skills.
11-30-2008 @ 1:22AM
Maarick is right. If those of you shouting him down and downvoting his posts weren't so insecure about what you've accomplished (or failed to accomplish) in the game, you wouldn't have to resort to the name-calling and stereotyping you accuse him of doing.
11-30-2008 @ 2:18AM
@ArchVile125I know this adds nothing to the conversation but sariusly that last post was worth the 40 seconds to read... LMAO...And on topic...WoW feels, more often than not 10% skill 90% time suck. Grinding for gear, buff materials, reputation (for gear), running raids (for gear) or whaterver. It takes a lot of time to make a good toon that has the stats to raid (or at least my TBC raiding experience, I'm still trying to find enough time to reach lvl 80, go figure). Time is really the key factor that makes the difference between a good or bad character (note I didn't say "player").
11-30-2008 @ 2:58AM
"will these annoying commentors ever go away?"It's not hard to be good. It IS time-consuming though.
11-30-2008 @ 9:26AM
I agree.In BC, once I hit 70, I got into a casual raid guild, worked to get my gear and attunment to get into Kara, then went through Kara and Heroics for months before getting into 25 man content (up to TK and SSC at the end). I was on the hard core end of casual for a while and I never even saw more than the front porch of the Black Temple.So I would imagine that a bunch never even got as far as Magtheredon, or Gruul.I'm all for making it easier in the end game.
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