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12-01-2008 @ 4:04PM
They will never know a time when incompetent and unskilled player did not get the Epic Loot that should have gone to the better players.
12-01-2008 @ 4:10PM
*rolls eyes*The people getting epics before BC- these skilled, competent people- are these the same folks that mashed one button an entire instance to automatically decurse/heal an entire raid (or were carried by these people), back when addons could target and change keybinds, even in combat?New players in general aren't even AWARE that scholo and BRD used to be 10-man.
12-01-2008 @ 4:25PM
Yes because before BC only the most skilled players got epics oh wait I remember being the guild MT up through AQ40 and having afkers in the raid get drops nobody else wanted.
12-01-2008 @ 4:30PM
Because perish the thought that less skilled players should get access to stuff that makes their character more powerful and therefore **makes the game easier**.You realise that in most competitive recreational activities better players get *handicaps* right?Complaining that the endgame is to easy is entirely fair. Complaining that the endgame being too easy means that people who don't "deserve" Epics can get them makes you sound like an idiot.
12-01-2008 @ 6:21PM
I dont understand the use of the word "skilled" when it comes to WOW PVE.What skill are you flatliners talking about? The skill of following directions? Or the skill of reading "how to" guides? Perhaps its the ever difficult skill of creating cast sequence macros....Sorry to break it to you, but your not "skilled". A skateboarder is skilled. An ice carver is skilled. A wow player is color by numbers skilled. "Oh look i stayed in the lines, worship my skill"This idea of skill when it comes to WOW is essentially made up by those that werent every really skilled in anything so, getting random drops off of bosses in instances you grind doesnt = skill.PVP is the only place where I will allow the word skill be used. Simply because its not plug and play. Skill in PVE, HA! Go play on a light bright. Your not "better" at the game because you read the proper cast sequense for each raid encounter. Your not better at the game because stacking your gear with certain atributes you think you discovered improved your DPS.WOW was and is a kiddie game. PVP brought some hair on the testicles. See how much QQ goes on by the raiders too. Its pathetic.
12-01-2008 @ 6:26PM
Yeah that would be me BC baby! er... baby!
12-01-2008 @ 10:30PM
I agree with Insano.The only degree of difficulty ("skill wise" - if you can call it that) is the odd movement. Granted there are a few new cool mechanics in Wrath that take a lil learning, but if you must put 'skill' into wow then clearlyPVP > PVE
12-02-2008 @ 4:19AM
@insano:Yes, I totally agree. I find that when in raid groups with pick-up PvP fanatics they are just so great at understanding Aggro, Dispells, Pulls, Focus, Mana Conservation...There are people that PvP with no-skill, there are people that PvE with no skill.You for example most likely would not understand how to get the best dps possible by varying your rotation to hug the tanks aggro limit.Just as I don't know how to react in PvP against each class.To say that PvE requires no skill just prooves that you either never tried, and just want to wave your PvP flag around a bit.Or that in groups you're the one who causes hassle for everyone then claims it's "cause pve players suck"Imo, declaring PvE or PvP above the other simply proves that you have not knowledge about the other part of the game.
12-02-2008 @ 7:14AM
the same fact from another perspective:I remember a time when epics where so rare and difficult to obtain that jerks immediately became elitist jerks once they got their first epic. Some of them still can't get over with it so today they sound like elitist jerks filled with bitterness.Also I remember a time when you could not stay on a gryphon until you reached your destination. Instead you had to talk to the gryphon master again and again on each flightpoint in between.I wonder how we arranged our bio breaks back then...
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