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12-05-2008 @ 7:22AM
I always see you complaining about Shamans... seriously?And if those three classes are out DPSed by Shamans, then that means the players were terrible.
12-04-2008 @ 3:52PM
I have to disagree...My mage though not well geared just yet can put out a steady 1900-2000 dps. I recently had to change specs from the lvl'ing grind to a more viable raiding spec, so that doesn't help.But when the Tank does a considerable amount of overall damage than I do I think some review is needed.It's not really about class mechanics, it's more about a Class's roll. If you wear Cloth, you're a squishy. If you wear Leather, you are somewhat squishy, all the way up to a plate wearing Meat shield.If a class has to give up survivability with the loss of armor and stamina then there Damage and DPS SHOULD go beyond that of a tank. I know threat mechanics are working better due to the increase of damage so I am not overly concerned, just stating my opinion.DPS should go in order of:1. Mage- Lack of constant Pet therefore above Locks.2. Locks3. Rogues/ DPS druid3. Hunters- Below Locks due to the fact of wearing Mail armor.4. Shaman- Both Elemental and Enchancement- again due to mail armor.5. Death knight- new class so shares the same spot as a Ret Pally5.Ret Palidan6. Warrior- All specs.yeah I know this is controversial, but that's my view. I know alot agree with me and have quit the game over it, or atleast rerolled to other classes because of disgust with their chosen class.5
12-04-2008 @ 4:21PM
Our mages are pushing way more dps than a pathetic 2000. Come on, tanks do more than 2000dps, and dps in entry wrath raiding can be around 4k-5k dps. Mages, and warlocks can do this by the way. If you can't then work on your spec/rotation/gear.I'm tired of hearing bad players of pure dps classes who have finally been exposed as bad players asking for nerfs of hybrids and tanks. Tanks in particular need that kind of dps to keep up their threat against dpsers who know what they are doing.
12-04-2008 @ 5:08PM
@WyveryxSo I play a hunter so I should do less DPS? I am pretty sure in mail a boss will still 1 shot me, same as a mage or warlock.
12-04-2008 @ 7:09PM
@Wyveryx:That's just silly. Your armor type shouldn't impact how much raid DPS you can do. Heck, if you look at some of the gear sets, clothies get more armour than rogues. Then there are the spells/skills you have that increase armour or decrease damage taken.DPS should be based on utility. If you have a unitasker like a mage, he should be tops in DPS like the other unitaskers (rogues, warlocks, hunters). Next should be the hybrids (shamans, paladins, druids, death knights, warriors, priests).If all you can do is DPS then you should be very good at it. If not, then the price for your utility should be paid on the damage meter.
12-04-2008 @ 10:28PM
Love that you skipped Priest in your assessment theremuch
12-05-2008 @ 10:24AM
[quote]1. Mage- Lack of constant Pet therefore above Locks.2. Locks3. Rogues/ DPS druid3. Hunters- Below Locks due to the fact of wearing Mail armor.[/quote]On AoE trash. On boss rights Rogues should out-dps you any day.
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