Ghostcrawler: If you're 80, you're hardcore
We had quite the firey argument yesterday here on the site -- first, Adam postulated that raiding was so easy we didn't even need to track it, and then I responded by saying that anyone who'd already beat the raid content was just going too fast. And now we have a response from Ghostcrawler (even though he beat us to the punch anyway by posting on Wednesday -- that's just how awesome he is). "If you're 80 already," he says on the forums, "you are a relatively hardcore player."That will ruffle a few feathers, and I should know, because I ruffled a few of the same feathers yesterday. But the stats back GC up -- it's true that most of the players in the game haven't gotten to 80 yet, and of course it doesn't mean that you're a no-life loser if you're 80; it just means that you're faster than the average player. Congrats.
But in the hopes of actually bringing this whole thing home to a place we can all agree on without flaming each other, let's take a look at the new way of doing the endgame: the regular, show up-and-fight PvE content is now for casual players. Ulduar will be harder than the current endgame, says GC, but it still won't be as hard as AQ40 and the original Naxx were in their day. And for the hardcore players, Blizzard is offering achievements and special runs -- have you finished Sartharion with three drakes yet, he asks? Have you finished all of the achievements yet (and if you have, let us know, because we'd love to post about you)? There are really hardcore, really challenging things to do in the game, still, and Blizzard is working on offering appropriate rewards for them, says GC. But the average endgame is no longer the domain of people who raid three times a week or more, and that's the way Blizzard wants it.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Virtual selves, Odds and ends, Blizzard, Expansions, Raiding, Bosses, Wrath of the Lich King
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Reader Comments (Page 7 of 7)
Tychon Dec 8th 2008 12:17PM
I don't get your post... did you just call a fellow harcore player, a "hardcore player"?
seriously though you can raid 6-7 times a night pretty easy if you had the schedule for it. 3hrs a night. (usually what people waste watching american idol and the like) 21hrs a week. most would call that a part time job... not a full time job. usually once you get to the point where there are no upgrades outside raids there isn't much else to do.
say you work a 6:30-3:30ish with raid 4-7 (usually the time you would go hang out with friends/they get off work) go get dinner with some friends 8-10 (or longer on friday saturday nights) go home and go to sleep even getting 7hrs of sleep.
Perfect world... but if you happen to find a guild that was raiding that perfectly into your schedule. It can be done, active social life, raiding a lot, sleep, and full time job.
Juliah Dec 8th 2008 1:39PM
Seven pages of comments ... no one would ever see my full thoughts on this, so I'll keep it brief: thank you, Ghostcrawler. Thank you for making the game more inclusive for many more players than the top end minority. I appreciate being able to see more of the content.
Mallestai Dec 11th 2008 11:48AM
Shadow Remains on Earthen Ring (US) has killed Sartharion with all 3 drakes alive on the pull for a server first Twilight Vanquisher title, as well as the Twilight Drake.
Downed thread here with a link to the guilds site that includes pictures of the Drake/title: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275810846&sid=1
...just in case anyone (GC) was wondering.