Arcane Brilliance: The wonders of Frostfire

Each week Arcane Brilliance mixes frost with fire and comes up with a column about Mages. It's a delicate recipe, requiring just enough frost, and exactly the right amount of fire, with a thick glaze of arcane spread across the entire concoction. If you add too much lightning, you end up with Shamans. If your recipe calls for shadow, you might end up with a Priest. Whatever you do, don't let any amount of suck get into your recipe. Everybody knows that's what Warlocks are made of.
Frostfire Bolt is an interesting little spell. When you first hit level 75, visit your Mage trainer and learn it, you may think to yourself, "So...it does frost and fire damage? It's like a Fireball and a Frostbolt combined! You take some ice, and you combine it with some fire, and you come up with...slush? I'm not sure how something like that is effective, but whatever. Now I don't have to respec to fight fire or ice-immune mobs, I guess? Let me see if I can find a place on my action bar for this. There we go. Right between Amplify Magic and my tea-bagging macro."
You would not be totally wrong in thinking this way. Well, maybe for having a tea-bagging macro, but that's wrong for a whole slew of other reasons. At level 75, when you first obtain the spell, that's really about all it is: a damage spell to use when running into a mob that's immune to your usual nuke. Frostfire Bolt doesn't really hit its stride until you've hit level 80, talented specifically to get the most of the spell, and started to get some of that sweet Naxxramas gear.
Once it does start to live up to its potential, though, Frostfire Bolt suddenly becomes the primary nuke in the single highest DPS raiding spec for Mages in the game. After the break, we'll talk about the why's and how's of this wonderful spell.
Frostfire Bolt is a nuke that has a three-second cast time that cannot be talented down. It has a fixed 40 yard range which also cannot be talented down. It doesn't do fire damage, and it doesn't do frost damage. It does "frostfire" damage. As far as I am aware, there are currently no resistances or immunities that specifically effect this type of damage, with the exception of general, across-the-board spell damage reductions. When determining partial resists, the lowest of the two resistances (fire or frost) on your target will be used to determine the amount of frostfire damage resisted. There were points in the Wrath beta where the spell would switch damage types depending on the mob's resistances--doing fire damage to some, frost to others--but this is no longer the case. It is now always frostfire, all the time.
Talents
It benefits from most talents that affect either fire or frost spells. Here's a list:
Fire
- Ignite
- Impact
- Burning Soul
- Master of Elements
- Playing with Fire
- Critical Mass
- Fire Power
- Pyromaniac
- Combustion
- Molten Fury
- Empowered Fire
- Hot Streak
- Burnout
Frost
- Frostbite
- Ice Shards
- Elemental Precision
- Piercing Ice
- Icy Veins
- Frost Channeling
- Winters Chill
- Arctic Winds
- Fingers of Frost
- Chilled To the Bone
Another notable exception is Elemental Precision, which actually grants double the normal benefit. Apparently Frostfire Bolt qualifies for the extra 3% hit for fire spells and frost spells, giving it an effective +6% to hit, meaning that you will cap out your Frostfire Bolt before you cap out all of your other spells.
Builds
To be effective, Frostfire Bolt must be talented around with an elementalist build. These generally come in two flavors, either a deep Fire build, or a deep Frost one. The Frost-heavy one has sub-par damage (a normal deep-Frost build using Frostbolt as its primary nuke will usually trump it), but some Mages like it because it still allows them some PvP utility and gives them access to their Water Elemental. For pure damage potential, however, a Fire-heavy build is the only way to go. If done correctly, the raw damage output of a Frostfire build will out-perform every other Mage spec at the current end-game. It is, quite simply, the highest DPS raiding build out there.
You'll find some slight variations, but this is the generally-accepted cookie-cutter Fire-heavy Frostfire Build at the moment:
0/53/18 Frostfire Build
If you insist on going Frost-heavy, you'll find variations of this build floating around:
10/10/51 Frostfire Build
Spell Rotation
When raiding with a Fire-heavy elementalist build, you'll want to begin each encounter by fully applying the Improved Scorch debuff, then use a very simple rotation: Living Bomb-->5 x Frostfire Bolt (possibly six, if you have enough haste to fit six Frostfire Bolts in during the 12-second duration of Living Bomb). Once you've cast your five Frostfire Bolts, you'll re-cast Living Bomb so that its DoT can run its course, and sandwich in the occasional Scorch to keep that debuff up. When Hot Streak procs, you'll want to use it for a Scorch-->Pyroblast combo, since that's probably the most effective way to keep your Improved Scorch debuff up without messing up your rotation too much.
It isn't the most interesting rotation in the world, but it will out-damage just about anything else out there. Just set up a macro that keeps your trinkets and longer cooldown talents like Combustion and Icy Veins in the mix, and let the Frostfire fly.
Glyphs
There is only one glyph that affects Frostfire Bolt. You'll never guess what it's called.
Glyph of Frostfire is pretty awesome, actually. It has no downside, and it's a pure and significant damage boost. I'm not sure you can beat a flat 2% damage and crit increase to your primary nuke. I guess it could be 3%, but that's just being greedy.
Stats
So what stats are most important to a raiding Frostfire Mage? Hit rating is still king, but once that's capped out, the order goes something like this: spellpower>crit>haste>everything else. Crit and Haste are actually very close for this build's purposes, and depending on your gear and current stat levels, their order could very well switch. Both are incredibly important to have solid amounts of to get the most out of your Frostfire build, as haste rating is the only way to lower that 3-second cast-time, and so much of your damage and procs are so heavily crit-dependent that you really have to have a decent crit rating.
Other Random Information
When Counterspelled or Earth Shocked or otherwise locked out of your spell school while casting a Frostfire Bolt, you are actually locked out of both Frost and Fire schools. If you get locked out of either the Frost or Fire trees, then you also won't be able to cast Frostfire Bolt. It counts as either tree, and both trees. Yes, this sucks, but you're the dummy who took a raiding spec into a PvP situation. Silly raiding Mage. Go spec straight Frost or deep Arcane and try again.
The hit cap for this spell, if you've taken Elemental Precision, is effectively 289, rounded up. That's not too bad at all. Keep in mind, though, that once you hit that, you'll still be another 3% short of the cap for your other Fire and Frost spells, and 6% short for your Arcane spells. Do with that information what you will.
With the above heavy-Fire elementalist build, the crit damage bonus on this baby is a whopping 315%. If that doesn't make you stand up and take notice, please note that on that critical strike--the one that just did somewhere in the neighborhood of 7,000 points of damage--you also triggered Ignite, which will do another 40% of that amount over the next four seconds, and made your target defecate in their pixelated trousers. That, my friends, is some sexy, sexy damage.
Brief and Relatively Inoffensive Editorializing
Now, having said all of that, let me end by submitting that I am not planning to spec Frostfire at any point in the foreseeable future. It's an incredibly effective spec, and I have nothing against it. By extolling its virtues in the above wall of text, I was in no way suggesting that every raiding Mage should always spec this way, simply because it can produce the highest amount of DPS. I love my Arcane build, and I tend to generate big four-digit numbers over the heads of mobs just fine, thank you. When in groups, my Mage's name generally tends to appear at some point or another on the damage meters, usually somewhere between the top of the meter and the bottom. I have fun when I play, and I would encourage the rest of you to attempt to do the same.
Frostfire Bolt--and the builds it is designed to take advantage of--is just a small but extremely interesting part of the awe-inspiring newness we've been introduced to with this expansion. It's a great new way to maximize your DPS in raiding encounters, and if you want to try it out, you totally should. Tis the season to throw slushballs, after all.
As always, play how you want to, don't ever let anyone tell you what spec you should or shouldn't be rolling with, and as always, kill a Warlock or two for me. If not for me, kill one for yourself. Nine out of ten doctors recommend Warlock-killing as part of a daily routine, and the tenth doctor is probably a Warlock.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
Bionic Radd Dec 7th 2008 1:47PM
I hit 75 two nights ago (76 today. Loving the leveling speed in Northrend) and respecced for FFB (0/16/51 atm) and I have to say I am loving leveling with it. Stuns, Slows, Freezes and Burning (occasionally all at the same time!) mean that the mobs make it to me even less often than they were. I haven't gone into PVP with it yet, but that's a solid point about Counterspell and Earth Shock. Then again, I've been frost spec forever, so I am accustomed to using Arcane Blast when I get in that situation. Shouldn't be a problem. I think I made a couple of poor choices in my build (I grabbed Pyro out of habit, but I am not sure I will use it), but overall, it is a hell of a lot of fun.
Utakata23 Dec 7th 2008 2:00PM
Um...I agree with whats most said about Frostfire. That is, it's brilliant. But...
"Yes, this sucks, but you're the dummy who took a raiding spec into a PvP situation. Silly raiding Mage. Go spec straight Frost or deep Arcane and try again."
Silly Christian, keep your Arcane Missles & Explosion up on your Action bar. They still work under a Frostfire spec and don't go away...and still deal a good deal of hurt. Apply liberally until your Frost 'n Fire kick back in...or if you live that long. (And unless your sniping...you should be using long casting spells in PvP anyway.) No need waste gold on a re-spec.
Also note: Frostfire spec is also good for solo'ing, level'ing the last 5 levels, group instances and other fun stuff this game has to offer. Unless you live in an insulated cacoon as a raider...you should really l2apply that spec else where. It's truely goodness.
lambach Dec 7th 2008 2:35PM
All mages should spec Frostfire. Fuck your bullshit at the end about not speccing into it. People need to lrn2play or gtfo...stop spreading lies about playing whatever spec you want, scrub.
Xan Dec 7th 2008 3:21PM
successful troll is successful.
Wheres mah rickroll? Dec 7th 2008 11:11PM
i realised and quite disappointed in that fact that while Michael T has done a awesome effort at derailing this topic, his topic should have had a rickroll link in it.
also i could be wrong but isnt living bomb a 10sec count down, not 12 as per the article? imtoo lazy to investigate
at 75 this is a great spec to work into, at 76 i respeced from fire to frostfire, my crits on fire were around the 4-4.5k. as frost fire they went up to 5-6k crits. not bad upgrade
to the QQ'er, meh who cares, are you gonna complain about 2girls1cup not requiring a password to access thier site? or are you going to complain to google because content control can easily be turned off without the need for a password? how about complaining to them about the fact that if parental control was pw protected that a teenager would still be able to search for another search engine that grants them access to adult content?
Remember google is a well respected site for all ages, the content that appears on there is not their responsibility to filter. Are you going to complain to WoWinsider for not filtering adult content in the comments section? OMG someone used the word anal!
Madrox Dec 7th 2008 11:32PM
WTB Blood Pact post PST
yazah Dec 8th 2008 10:20AM
Question:
Does Burnout (increases crit bonus by 50%) stack with Ice Shards (increases crit bonus by 100%)?
I assume so, but just thought I would ask.
Kenn F Dec 8th 2008 12:12PM
Whoa. Who would have thought that an article on FFB and use of common slang terms would generate this much hatred back and forth?
Discussions of Teabagging might be distasteful to some, and a joke to other. Either way, your personal offense aside, this is not the place to address your moral values or to try and clean the content to meet your standards.
WoWInsider is not required to meet any particular standard of speech. And they're repeating such common usages do not endangerous the well being of a child. Any such accusation would be to the initial utterance, in game.
You are welcome to rear your child and be the type of parent you choose to be. It is not the requirement of anyone else to live up to, or down to, your standard.
As for this column... leave the discusion to the area of Mages and your soapbox to the political or religious arenas. Thanks.
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Now... FFB is something that I guess I will have to try at some point, but I am still having much more fun being able to MOVE with Arcane barrage as my main nuke! Woot!
horthas Dec 13th 2008 11:42AM
kenn f said -
Now... FFB is something that I guess I will have to try at some point, but I am still having much more fun being able to MOVE with Arcane barrage as my main nuke! Woot!
I totally agree with you, after being an immobile fireslinger up until now, being able to actually wield pure magical power AND be able to move around while doing it AND it still turning out a reasonable amount of DPS (ABarrage seems to mirror fireball in most ways, though it does slightly less base damage I've noticed)...I just can't stop. Slow, ABarrage, FB, ABarrage, PoM-(insert normal cast-time heavy nuke here, for me it's fireball), ABarrage, it's just...unprecedented.
and yes, it probably doesn't have as much raw DPS as an FFB build, but I"m HAVING FUN with it, much like what Christian said in his disclaimer and what Kenn might've implied in his comment. if you want to try to feel superior in the damage charts then go respec to FFB, but if you want to do that I wonder why you rolled a mage in the first place (if you've got a 70 mage atm chances are you had one before 3.0.2 which means that everybody could out-DPS us then (usual exceptions of course) so what you were trying to do with a mage being top-dog with DPS at that time is anybody's guess.
ultimately though, I may roll FFB for an instance/raid when I get to 80 (when I F*****g finally get wrath - some you wouldn't believe how impossible it is to get wrath retail here - on second thought, maybe you might, it hasn't been translated into japanese after all...but that's a rant for another time) just to see those BIG JUICY CRITS everyone's talking about/drooling over.
(well, everyone in the mage community anyway, everyone else is probably wondering if this will make us more squishy or more living WoMD, and even more due cause to feign death/vanish/fade/go invisible (though if your opponent is a mage then I suppose you yourself could just go invisible and know where he is))
and to the guy QQ-ing about Christian using the term 'tea-bagging' - stop QQ-ing about 'political' issues and start QQ-ing about important issues, like why the hell we can't steal beastial fury from a hunter or his pet like we can with a pally and hand of freedom (again, another rant for another time... Christian, think WoW insider'll let me QQ about that if I wrote an issue of Arcane brilliance?)
thundrpants Dec 8th 2008 1:48PM
I gotta admit, i'm pretty tired of people asking me if i'm FROSTFIRE spec when i try to join a group.
Ever since i've been raiding with my mage (in TBC), the top DPS build has always been something in Fire, Arcane, or a mixture of the two, (with possibly a little frost thrown in for Icy Veins) but it has NEVER been FULL FROST, which is what I have always played, yet i'm almost ALWAYS at the top of the damage charts. That's because i know how to play my spec, and play it well. I know how to gear myself, what enchants/gems to get, what consumables to use, etc.
Now WothLK is here and FROSTFIRE spec is the flavor of the month, and for the first time ever i seem to be encountering trouble finding a raid spot because i'm not speced as it. I don't know if its because WotLK is still new or what, but spec is only half the battle people. Any nub can take 30 seconds online to find out what the latest "best" spec is, but that doesn't mean they know how to play it.
I encourage people to look at gear over spec when considering someone for a raid spot. Someone has to actually work for good gear, farming mats/gold/rep/badges/whatever to get it. www.wow-heroes.com is an excellent source for checking gear. It shows everything (gear, gems, enchants, etc) on one easy to read screen, including a convenient rating number you can use to quickly compare against other people and even a recommendation for raids they should be running.
So please dont' be too quick to judge based on spec. A good player can top the charts with any spec if he knows what he's doing. (Unless, possibly its a PvP specific tree, or obviously, if its a broken tree like retribution used to be for pallys before the 3.0 patch, but none of the mages trees like that.)
asecretcodecarved Dec 19th 2008 4:51AM
Agree w/ Thundrpants. Yesterday I started getting flack from our guild's "mage lead" over my full frost spec. Everywhere you look people are telling you to spec FFB or gtfo. Blizzard has already said that after the hunter nerf they have their eyes on mages, and I for one hope that FFB spec chokes on the nerf bat. FFB spec's dps is only going to get more ludicrous in better gear, and as it stands already in naxx gear it ha singled itself out as the only 'viable' raiding spec by being such high single-target dps. This is obviously a huge fuck up on blizzard's part and the sooner it is fixed, the better.
Yes, I sold out and re-spec'd FFB for our raid tonight, and my dps predictably shot through the roof. It was my first time raiding as anything other than full frost, and within 30 minutes i was beating our mage lead. The spec requires no skill, has no unique utility, zero survivability, wild and spiky threat, and is indeed cookie-cutter shadowbolt spam at its worst, making your preferred playstyle completely irrelevant in the face of such overpowered dps. I immediately spec'd back out of it, as the thought of remaining FFB thru heroic 5-mans, dailies, and farming made my skin crawl. Of course with dual-specs FFB will be my off-spec single target nuker spec, but until then I see no reason to experiment with it any further. Grats to arcane mages like Christian for their incoming buffs, and lets pray that mages of all (sensible) specs can continue to top the charts.
Kaym Dec 8th 2008 5:43PM
I agree that a "good" mage can top the charts without Frostfire spec but you will not be getting as much damage as is possible from your gear and character.
First off, Frostfire spec is the best spec out their for a mage doing single target damage in a PvE setting. If you want to give up the extra damage because you are more interested in staying frost, arcane, fire, or any other combination than that is your prerogative. It is your choice to spec and not get the optimum amount of DPS out of your gear and character.
If you are saying your elite for topping the charts against a FFB mage that can not play? .... Grats, I guess.
Also warlock bashing (I intentionally stand near the warlock when Krystallus does shatter in H HoS) and tea bagging are some of the best parts of being a mage .
Just like having to make a table at the beginning of every 5 man is one of the worst. (It costs me 5 reagants now???)
I know that me and the warlock are good friends ( at least he thinks) and it is all in good fun.
Zedd Dec 12th 2008 2:32AM
Oh noes, the children might become corrupt and start talking about teabagging to all of their friends! they may even decide to roll as a warlock and start teabagging mages!
*dies in shock at the horror*
hitsua Jan 4th 2009 9:36PM
The people responding "well I don't do a lot of DPS but I have fun" are the same ones who typically get booted from raids for pulling 1500dps on Patchwerk.