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12-06-2008 @ 8:50PM
Wow, did this article seriously make a reference to "tea-bagging"?I enjoy dirty jokes, curse words, not being PC, and all that sort but that term is foul, tasteless, and pointless to post on a site about WoW that I'm sure children read.I understand the intent. The intent is irrelevant. I also understand that it is a small portion of the article as a whole. However, its insignificance to the article only proves my point - it can be deleted without hampering the article's intent, impact, or information. It is irrelevant. Unnecessary.Editors, please remove it at your earliest convenience.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagging
12-06-2008 @ 9:09PM
Don't get your tea-bags all bunched up, it is for F.U.N., something your post might just FUBAR for some more sensitive tea-baggers. Look that Army acronym in the urban dictionary :D
12-06-2008 @ 10:36PM
Is this a joke? Get over yourself and your "Protect the children!" campaign.
12-06-2008 @ 11:05PM
The children are the ones doing the tea-bagging.
12-06-2008 @ 11:46PM
Yes, heaven forbid a 12-year-old read an article with the term "tea bagging" in it, because I'm sure they've never heard it before and never will! If they read this, they'll be scarred for life and will probably become prostitutes! *Grabs the wife and kids, and flees to the suburbs*Won't somebody please think of the children!?
12-06-2008 @ 11:49PM
In a prior age you would have been a book burner, wouldn't you?What ever happened to personal responsibility? It is a parent's responsibility to monitor and deal with what a kid reads in books, reads on computers, and watches on TV and in movies. How does personal responsibility come into play? Well, YOU MADE THE LITTLE BASTARD, not the author of this article. It is not this author's responsibility to change his writing style to account for a lack of parenting on someone else's part.
12-07-2008 @ 12:06AM
Great point Alaw, parents should really stop kids from reading an adult site like Wowinsider, especially when the site is about an adult game. Oh wait, WoW is marketed at kids and this site is supposed to be for all readers of WoW.I think in such a context it is the writer's responsibility to age appropriate terms.(Beyond that, it is tasteles. It doesn't really add anything to the article, but that's more my opinion as a critic).
12-07-2008 @ 12:23AM
Get over yourself.
12-07-2008 @ 1:21AM
Wow.Just...wow. Your average 13-year old has seen or heard a LOT worse on the internet thanks to 4chan and Xbox Live. So...yeah.
12-07-2008 @ 1:23AM
Hahaha Michael T that was funny man. I lol'd irl.It was obviously a joke and not meant to be taken seriously. No one complains about a 'foul and tasteless' term being used in an article read by children, and then not only posts a link for the kiddies to educate themselves on it, but to a site chock full of other terms just as 'foul and tasteless'. Pure genious I tells ye.Sarcasm at its best!
12-07-2008 @ 1:48AM
"It doesn't really add anything to the article"Um...It adds comedy.
12-07-2008 @ 1:50AM
WoW is rated "Teen". I know this site has no affiliation whatsoever with Blizzard and since it is a web site and not the game the ESRB rating has absolutely no bearing on this 3rd party site at all. But humor me for a moment.The ESRB defines a "Teen" rating thus: Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language. By that definition, WoW could contain the actual act of "tea bagging" (as long as those mind-destroying genitals were never actually shown) and keep its current rating. Hell, by that definition, Blizzard could add bookies in the game to take bets on who gets tea bagged the most. And every once in a while, it would be permissible for an NPC to say "Shit, that dude got tea bagged HARD!". Oh, and the bookies can wear skimpy bikinis. Even the dudes :(If the ESRB's definition of what's allowable for a "teen" is different than yours, then it would be more effective for you to ensure your kids never play the game or read anything about it than to post what amounts to "I think I speak for everyone. Therefore, I expect my demands to be met".
12-07-2008 @ 2:16AM
Alaw, actually if you go to the ESRB site, it is pretty clear "tea bagging" falls under "sexual content" and not "crude humor":Crude Humor - Depictions or dialogue involving vulgar antics, including “bathroom” humorSexual Content - Non-explicit depictions of sexual behavior, possibly including partial nudityhttp://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jspIt would be fine for a Mature rating, not a Teen.As for those that say kids already have seen worse thanks to other sites, that's a poor argument. For one, teens on this site and teens on those other sites are not necessarily the same people. Those other sites also have warnings for their mature content and this site does not. Generally though, assuming that just because it exists on the internet that every teen has therefore seen it and hence it is ok to have that content anywhere else on the internet is taking several large and ridiculous leaps.
12-08-2008 @ 5:00PM
Grats Michael T, you've won the douchebag of the day award. How about you just lighten up and go back to your Amish-life. You're clearly an idiot,since you posted an explicit definition of what a tea-bag really is. He was using the word meaning when you sit on a downed opponent's head over and over.So just look at it in a funny way before you start bringing "Scrotum"s into it.Lol btw, Alaw, I seriously laughed out loud at your second post haha, I'd totally play that game.P.S. Frostfire rocks.
12-07-2008 @ 3:56AM
Michael T, Mister Moose, thank you both for doing your part to keep the world safe for America's values. I believe I speak for everyone when I say that in America, we still have a little thing called "values." Its a little thing that makes us strong. Its a little thing that makes us the great people we are today. And when we respect values that means we put our families first. And family means monogamous, heterosexual and nuclear. And it means that someone has to protect the family. Because we believe in values. And anyone who believes in values will also protect the values, and protect our children. Because there are perverts out there and Communsits, and Athiests. And they want to subvert our values, which we have and we hold. And yes, protecting our children sometimes means that we must keep them in ignorance. But is ignorance of evil such a bad thing? If our children knew about sexual behavior, then they might want to try it out. And that would undermine our values, the values that make this nation great. If our children stumble across this site, and read the phrase "T-B-ing" (I for one will not spell it out), they might ask us what it means. And in that case, we would have very few options to protect our children, our little storehouses of tomorrow's values. We could lie to them, but lying is immoral and undermines values. The only other possible option would seem to be that we could hold a responsible discussion with our children about sexuality, and about sexual appropriate behaviors, and about why specifically bobbing around like a moron in order to imply that your set of pixels is rubbing its pixelated crotch on another pixelated face is such a very bad thing. But that leads us back to my earlier point, that if our children know about sexuality, they may want to try it out, and that would undermine values. Their ignorance is their only defence against the violation of their innocence. Their precious little innocence that will only all too soon be eroded by coming into contact with perverts and Athiests in their adult life. This is why i never let my children look at any webpage unless I am in the room with them, and have already seen the page myself. This is why, when my children play World of Warcraft, I am in the room with them. I have turned off all of their chat channels. They are only aloud to use either /p and they are only aloud to group with me. I'm doing my part to keep my children save and to preserve the values that I know in my heart of hearts that everyone who is not a pervert shares! Has the offending phrase been edited yet? Otherwise, sadly, I will have to start boycotting all WoWInsider posts in the future, because I may be reading a post to determine if it is apropriate for my children, and they may want a glass of water, so they may come into the room to ask me for permission to get a glass of water (I would have to discipline them later for coming into the computer room with an un-vetted webpage open) and they might inadvertantly see an offencive phrase like "T-B-ing" and their innocence would be destroyed. Forver!
12-07-2008 @ 4:57AM
John Q, your attempt to be clever fails. I'm a liberal atheist with somewhat socialist leanings. I'm all for freedom of speech, and educating the young. That said, there's a big difference between education and freedom of speech and allowing anything to be said in any context. With that in mind, I've refined my argument a bit, and I think the following better captures exactly what my problem with the above article is.A site like Wow Insider not using a term like "tea bagging" is not depriving teenagers of something educationally important. I believe there is educational value in providing environments free of casual profanity or sexual remarks. It's important for kids to learn that you can interact with others and with a public audience in a mature manner. Sure, they'll likely encounter crude and tasteless people in the game (though such behavior can and should be reported, imho), and they can encounter such people in real life. There are plenty of relatively uncontrolled environments where they can be exposed to such vulgarities. Which, imho, makes it that much more important for the more controlled environments to act in a more mature manner, lest the young come away with the false impression of how adults behave.As a thought experiment, I'd ask you to consider what would happen if good parents didn't work to refrain from using profanity in front of their kids (at least while they raise them). You'd get children raised to think that using profanity left and right is acceptable behavior, because that is how they see people behave. Providing islands of mature behavior is important. Now, I'm not saying Wow Insider is anyone's parent, but given the nature of this site I think it has a similar responsibility to provide relatively clean discourse and articles.
12-07-2008 @ 6:06AM
Among the most amusing parts of this discussion is that I've been accused of being:1) An un-attentive parent2) A would-be book burner3) A controlling, self-righteous, crusader for American Values (capitalized, of course)4) A righty nut, opposing free speech, out of touch with "Today's Youth", and willing to begin a boycott against WoWInsider articles5) A witless, unfunny doltHow you've extrapolated such insightful and detailed characteristics of my life is incredible! How perceptive of you. And from just one internet comment? A marvel.Whether you were exaggerating to prove a point or truly believe these notions, I'd like to once again point out that my comment was made simply because I found the phrase distasteful.From a website that has, at times, aspired to higher journalistic ideals (see the moral grappling in articles accompanying leaked Wrath information) and caters to an audience of all ages, it's simply surprising and unwanted to see such blatant lewdness.So please, interpret all you'd like from this comment and more! I'm giddy with excitement about what else you guys can tell me about my life (so egocentric, I know). And the first responder to my original post totally resembles Corey Feldman, amirite? At the risk of derailing your arguments, can I get a confirmation on this?
12-07-2008 @ 6:34AM
Michael T must be a son of Jack T :P
12-07-2008 @ 6:53AM
I expected this much when i saw the first post. Still, although i know this is gonna be extremply pointless this late in the post, but hell....WHO decided that the term "tea-bagging" is a vulgar term? Wanting to block the term "tea-bagging" because it describes a vulgar action would be like trying to block the term "Jerk" since it also describes a vulgar action.Personaly i prefer someone saying "LOL I TEA-BAGGED THAT NOOB!!" Than, "I FORCED MY GENETALIA INTO THE MOUTH OF THAT CORPSE OF THE UNSKILLED PLAYER IN A SIGN OF SUPERIORITY!!"Punish the action, not the term.
12-07-2008 @ 4:18PM
Didn't you know that "morality" is a dirty word around here? How dare you even bring something like that up on the Internets!Ilnara: Even if I agreed he's a hypocrite, it's better to be a "hypocrite" in the technical sense (no one's perfect, thus everyone advocating any sort of moral values is a "hypocrite," right? :P) than... whatever it is you are.
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