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12-15-2008 @ 4:11PM
Yes, Rogue's ARE pointless. Our CC is lackluster at best, and a lot of the time useless, "kick" is one of MANY interrupts the game includes, our "aoe" (if you can call it that) SUCKS atm, and even without a cooldown will STILL suck ass, we have ZERO.. count it... ZERO buffs to bring to a raid and our group members, and to top ALL of it off... WE'RE NOT EVEN THE BEST SINGLE TARGET DPS ANYMORE. Why take a Rogue when you can take a Death Knight with their numerous useful skills, or take a shadow priest or even a warrior. Rogues have lost their value at any level and can be replaced in an instant. "My friend plays a rogue" or "Rogue's need loot too" are very thoughtful reasons to bring us along and I honestly thank you. But our necessity is ZERO in ANY raid or instance. We need a buff, and not a skill bufg or stat buff... we need a USEABILITY buff. Because right now we're pointless.
12-15-2008 @ 4:47PM
I have a 77 rogue. I know how to play and have pretty decent gear. I do a lot of dps, but just not as much as that one DK in the group. I always fall 2nd in dps to a DK. If I'm ever first in dps, it's because we don't have a DK. I'm usually outdone about 100-300 dps by a same level DK. It's pretty sad when I'm a rogue and can't justify my spot.
12-15-2008 @ 8:31PM
Are you serious? The only people I come behind in raids is a ret pally who is geared better than I am and a hunter because their pets do WAAAAAAAAY too much damage and they're going to get nerfed anyway. And I'm not even a HaT rogue, I'm Combat.If you're a rogue and you're not in the top 3 dps there are two explanations. Either the other dps is better geared than you or you aren't that good of a rogue. Any rogue who knows their class and plays it well does just fine in a raid....it just happens that those rogues are few and far between apparently.
12-16-2008 @ 2:14AM
There are several things you're leaving out. First, like hunters, we have another misdirect, which is good for not only initial threat generation, but also increases the tank's threat gen as well.Also, FoK + BF = HAX. Blade Flurry procs off your main hand EVERY TIME it hits during FoK. That's 3 per mob. So, if you TotT --> BF + Killing Spree --> Fan, you're probably going to be topping the chart during a 3-4-pull if you're geared approximately equally with the other dps in the group.I know that this is only once every two minutes. But, if you manage your cooldowns properly, you KSpr every minute, AR every 4 minutes (you have the glyph, right?), you TotT every 30 seconds, etc. In my guild, our rogues are our best melee dps right now, and we're equivalently geared to our other melees. As it's been said before, take the player, not the class. A rogue that knows what they're doing isn't going to be too terribly far behind in the meters.
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