Ghostcrawler's tips on Loken

We've known that heroic Loken is currently the hardest mob in the game for a bit now. Alex broke the story a couple weeks ago, and Loken is currently killing approximately 1.8 times as many players as the next hardest boss, Sapphiron. That statistic is skewed a bit too, considering Sapphiron is a 10/25 man fight, and Loken is only a 5 man.
One of the chief complaints about Holy Paladins has been their relative lack of AoE heals. This becomes particularly evident when a Paladin attempts to heal Loken in the Halls of Lightning. It should be noted however, as Ghostcrawler does and I can attest to, it can be done with a Paladin healing.
It's on this note that Ghostcrawler has provided some tips on the strategy used to defeat heroic Loken. And while these appeared in discussion about Holy Paladins, they apply to any class equally well.
Tip #1: "Everyone moves to melee together. The Paladin casts Beacon of Light on himself."
Basically when it's time for everyone to be next to each other, everyone and their mother better move to the melee. If not, they're going to become deceased and that's pretty much the show. The Paladin will use Beacon of Light on himself here to help heal the group.
Tip #2: "When you get the emote for Lightning Nova, everyone moves back together."
I've found this is the tricky part in the fight. When everyone need to move in there is a defined point that they're going to. It's not really relative. "Move to gigantic Tauren DPS Warrior," is easy to understand for everyone. "Move back a few paces," gets to be a little more difficult. Especially if some people's idea of moving back is slowly turning with the keyboard and walking (not running) over. But that's part of the fun of this fight, you have to move together.
Tip #3: Lightning Nova doesn't have a huge range.
This tip made me raise an eyebrow and think for a minute. Lightning Nova really doesn't have a huge range. I'm used to running way the heck out of the nova just for safety's sake, but given that it really doesn't have a large range movement isn't too necessary in the extreme end. Just a little bit of it will do the trick. Well, maybe more than just a little bit, but you get the picture. You don't need to run to left field to get out of the blast.
Tip #4: "You don't need to run all the way back to Loken."
One of the secrets of good tanks is that it is often advantageous to allow the mob to come back to you after having to move. Of course this will necessitate that the DPS slow down or letup entirely as to not pass the tank in threat, but the potential benefits of doing this far outweigh the push in DPS. By allowing the mob to come to you you're essentially resetting the playing field, and in many aspects the encounter. The boss fight simply becomes a rinse-and-repeat exercise. This principle applies to many bosses, no matter if they're difficult 5-man ones like Loken or road blocks like the old Sunwell boss Felmyst. The principal is easy: "Okay, we've done this once we can do it four more times."
Tip #5: "Only spread out slightly."
While Lightning Nova is the worst of Loken's abilities you can't just ignore the others. Since you don't want Arc Lightning to stack up too much you want to be sure to stay spread out a little bit but not too much. You still want to move as a group when you have to, but don't spread out so far that the Paladin (or any other healer) can't hit you with their heals. Everyone staying within 20 to 25 yards of the healer is a good idea.
Tip #6: Loken is about movement and coordination, not about healing.
This is important to realize. If the fight was just about healing or DPS there'd be less movement required (we assume). But it's not. Much of the damage of the fight can be negated by proper movement and coordination of the group. Thus this point is perhaps the most important of them all in that many folks simply want to brute force the encounter. While brute forcing can generally work, especially if you out-gear the environment you're fighting in, it won't work in all situations. Blizzard has evolved their fights over the years and in such an evolution of encounters brute forcing becomes less and less of an option. Each fight requires some sort of gimmick or skill beyond just the typical tank-and-spank. In this case it's moving as a group.
It should be noted that it's relatively rare for a developer to comment on a specific strategy as Ghostcrawler has done. It's not uncommon for them to post about certain abilities in regards to specific kinds of fights, but an all out "here's one way I've seen this boss be killed" isn't something we're used to in WoW.
It could be that this boss is causing so much trouble for a specific class combination that the developers/Blizzard felt the need to comment. Or it could just be part of a discussion about why Paladins are still great healers. We should take caution at reading too much into why Ghostcrawler spoke out about Loken and not another P.I.T.A. mob like Malygos or 3-drake Sartharion.
Nonetheless it's fun to discuss some specific boss strategies for a relatively hard encounter, especially when the developers weigh in on the situation.
Even though these tips came out of a Holy Paladin thread on the official forums, it should be obvious that they can apply to anyone. Replace Bacon of Light with Chain Heal and you have yourself a good Restoration Shaman strategy. Or Circle of Healing, or whatever other AoE healing spell is your choice. Hell, go ahead and Holy Nova is you're uber enough.
The main point still stands – the encounter is not impossible for one class. It's very doable. And as such, it shouldn't really matter what classes you take to heal your group. You might need to adapt and change strategy a bit, but that's just part of the game.
Filed under: Paladin, Tips, Tricks, How-tos, Instances, Bosses
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Reader Comments (Page 7 of 7)
Corrytrevor Dec 17th 2008 2:26PM
I am a holy paladin and have healed H-Halls of Lightning a few times. Loken is HARD but it is manageable.
Andrew Dec 20th 2008 9:19AM
What gets me LOLing the most, is that people keep complaining that Blizzard are making WoW too easy, yet are saying that a basic boss strategy of "move out of the fucking AOE" is unreasonable to expect players to deal with.
Reading the thread on the official forums, there's people claiming that in the "real world" theres no way for people to be that coordinated unless they are guildmates on voice comms.
If that's the case, if players are really not sharp enough to know that they should move away without the schoolteacher holding thier hand, then I don't want to see anyone complaining about WoW being made "too easy" ever again. We fucking deserve it.
Bullifus Dec 23rd 2008 8:43AM
try this fight with a grp consisting of Aussies with at best us all on 500ms (Give us servers in Aus pls, this connection through asia sux ass) any way the dps was taken out in the 1st 2 aoe's, lucky tank and heals (both pali's) were in the US and finished the fight off np, this fight is all about coordination (and of course ping) gg blizz not only can we not play melee dps in pvp, but we cant do this fight either.
500ms wtf the palyer isnt there anymore!!!
Hitsugaya Dec 23rd 2008 3:19PM
I remember when I first did Loken in heroic he was hard at first I wont lie I wiped a fair bit, however once you get the strategy down he is very straightforward to kill. When he casts his lightning nova all of the group must move in the same direction down the lighting path beneath you. It can be south north but it must be at the same time in the same direction. If your group manages to do that varying on your dps Loken will only be able to do this 3-4 times and hes dead. I just wanna say once you gain experience he is easy, he is not easy off the bat and I dont care no one should be saying he is. Just do what I said and make sure to stay I think 20 yards(any further and you will get hurt) away from him and you all need to be stacked on 1 person its easier to mark someone who is very knowledgeable about the fight with a star and stack on that person when he casts nova and you will beat him case closed.
I just wanna beat that damned dragon at the end of Oculus I cannot down that guy lol.
jimmyj Jan 9th 2009 6:41PM
I am a Holy Pally and have never had a problem with this boss.
All you need to do is all stack on tank bol yourself and heal through the thing I have around 17k hp 20k mana unbuffed so I can take a hit. I have always beat him in less than 2 min he is cake!!!