Spoken like a true non-raider.

If you've ever had to hold second aggro as a pally tank, you'll know that you burn through your mana at a greater pace than Spiritual Attunement can keep up with. Judging light gives you means of generating aggro without having to resort to more mana-intensive abilities like Consecrate.

If you can keep up a full 96969 rotation as an OT over an extended fight, you're either stacking Int (lol), your mitigation sucks, or you've sold something to the devil.

I hopped into this thread to say exactly this.

Threat is a NON-issue for tankadins. If you can't hold threat against your DPS, you are doing it way wrong. I'm averaging 5500 TPS through an ENTIRE Naxx run, not just on boss fights. I can peak near 7K on Patchwerk.

None of the DPS can even come close to that sort of output, not by 3K TPS or more. The only exception is on crazy AoE trash pulls, which are always made up of weak, squishy mobs anyway, and Consecration is still enough to hold them if your DPS has just the tiniest bit of discipline to hold AoE for 3-4 seconds while you round them up.

Umm... schadow, you need to read up some more or try another class.

As off tank in Naxx 10 and 25 man, I have never lost aggro to mobs and I don't go OOM.

You are seriously a bad raider. Don't give messages telling someone to raid more....

I stole aggro from our warrior tank last night in 25 man OS on the first 4 man pull using JoW (due to our holy pally using JoL). Then got told to just focus on something else besides what he is tanking. Oh, and I never lost aggro on the other 3 mobs. Even though we have plenty of aoe hunter and mages.

I had 89% mana when the mobs were dead.

Learn your class more... type less.

People losing aggro to JoL (especially Holy Pallies) need to stop playing tank and focus on maybe a dps class...

@ infection



I am not talking about losing aggro or ooming when I have aggro. Obviously you are not understanding the point I am making.

And if you are pulling aggro from your MT on a 4-pull, why were you attacking his target in the first place?

/facepalm

Schadow stop speaking, you are clearly just digging your own grave here.
As a full epic Champion of the Frozen Wastes you cant really tell me I need to raid more.

My 2 pennies: lack of threat has not been an issue since pre 3.0.
Judging wisdom + Divine Plea = No Mana issues.
In rare cases where I do run low on mana I just whack out Seal of Wisdom & no threat still is no issue. :O

I agree that if you are relying on Light for threat then you really need to rethink your rotation.