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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
12-20-2008 @ 5:35PM
Matchu said...
"a break down with your back-asswards logic on how priests are, more than ever, better than warlocks in terms of survivability."
So you're saying that stupid demonic circle is better than dispersion or any other of the spells he mentioned?
Face it, in PVP 'locks are only loved by the opposition. I've levelled mine right upto to 80 and he's just waaaaay too squishy for the Arena (as I found out yesterday).
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12-20-2008 @ 5:39PM
Bisquick(z) said...
There is a reply button. L2useit.
It's not better. It's equally as worthless in the zergfest that is arena.
12-20-2008 @ 5:52PM
Tridus said...
Yes. Priests have absolutely no survivability right now. Not to mention that healing in PvP is an absolute joke with the way damage scaled (if you can even get a heal off).
Anybody who thinks that Priests are actually working in PvP right now isn't playing one. It's awful. That doesn't mean Warlocks are fine, but to try and complain that everybody else has it better is wilful blindness.
12-20-2008 @ 5:55PM
Matchu said...
I'd agree that priests too are struggling, particularly Disc from experience. But Warlocks still have the raw deal.
Also:
"There is a reply button. L2useit."
I can see the word "reply" thanks, it's just I had other points to make that I didn't want grouped with my reply to him. So "lurn2fink" or however you trolls wish to pronounce it.
12-20-2008 @ 6:00PM
Aurigo said...
well I would hope that dispersion is somewhat better than demonic circle, seeing that it's a 51 pt talent and demonic circle is a new spell.
Also, with the complaints of the OPness of burst classes, this is inevitable due to the lack of resilience (which is what happened in BC). Just wait after this season, when people are kitted out with pvp gear, for the real results. Please come back with a decent amount of resilience in decent pvp gear before you complain again.
On the topic of DK's being OP against locks...warlocks should not be able to faceroll the keyboard to beat every class...for some you may just have to put in some effort, grab some gear, or adapt your group composition (if you're in arenas).
~Aurigo
12-21-2008 @ 12:04AM
Eisengel said...
My lock is still in the low 20s, so I haven't felt your pain yet... but pre-Wrath I think the Spriest game was essentially the same. I tried to keep all my DoTs up, and CCed with fear. In general I found we had 2 types of fights... fights where I was blown up instantly, and fights we won. In general if I was not the 1st one killed, I'd easily top the damage meters and would be close to top for healing.
The game is entirely different now. I've found my Spriest to be basically a 3-button nuker in PvE... boring as the day is long. DoTs are nearly useless since mobs just don't live long enough to make them useful and they're just so expensive mana-wise. Downranked sw:p used to go on every mob I fought, now I only cast it on bosses. I haven't done any PvP yet, but the loss of our DoT focus is going to hurt. We basically have to nuke everything down like a pure destro lock, without our mana-regenerating abilities. Standing in one place and flinging Shadowbolts vs standing in one place and slinging Mindblasts isn't too different.
I'd argue locks are more survivable in PvP however. They have multiple ways to restore life and mana. Once a Priest is out of mana, they are out of options. At the very least a lock can lifetap. Priests do have a bubble, but one Scourge Strike crit can drop that, and AFAIK those great Discipline damage-reducing abilities don't work while stunned. Dispersion sucks noodles. Aurigo, sorry to disappoint, but Dispersion is little more than a free mana pot. If you get lucky you can time it so you survive an initial burst, but then all your opponent has to do is wait until you pop out. We have basically 1 CC, a very weak fear. Priests are basically tissue paper in Arena. In BGs you can hide a bit and try to let the enemy to attack more interesting targets up in their face, like DKs. If you get focussed on though, it's unlikely you'll last more than a few seconds.