All the World's a Stage: So you want to be a Death Knight
This installment of All the World's a Stage is the eighteenth in a series of roleplaying guides in which we find out all the background information you need to roleplay a particular race or class well, without embarrassing yourself. Originally I had planned to write about death knights only after I had written about all the other classes, as a way of wrapping up and rounding out this whole series of articles about the lore behind the playable races and classes of World of Warcraft. But then ZuWho posted a comment on my last article specifically requesting me for my thoughts on death knights -- and even used the word "pleeeaase!" So of course I'm always a sucker for such polite requests, especially comments like this with really insightful questions. Today we'll look specifically at these questions and see what possible answers come to mind.
To a certain extent, we already covered a number of possibilities for death knight characters about 6 months ago. However, while most of those possibilities are still valid, there was so much we didn't know about the player-character death knight lore at that time, and there are definitely some points that need updating.
This ain't your daddy's death knight
But before we go on, you should be aware that there are two kinds of Death Knight in Warcraft lore. The first kind was actually more of an undead necromancer -- a powerful orc warlock whose soul had been placed inside the fallen corpse of an Azerothian warrior. Some looked mostly normal except for being a little pale, while others were little more than skeletons; but all of them had tremendous magic and retained their free will. The most famous of these was Teron Gorefiend.
That is not what you are though. You are part of a new breed of death knight based on Arthas' unquestionably successful prototype. You were once a normal hero of your people, but somehow were forced into the service of the Lich King, most likely by dying in some sort of battle with the Scourge. If the Lich King and his minions believed you to be worth the trouble, they reanimated your body and overruled your own free will. You eventually get your free will back, of course, but the undeniable fact remains that for a time, you were a servant of the Lich King, and you did his horrific bidding.
Some death knights joined up with the Lich King out of their own free will, in spite of the fact that this meant they wouldn't have free will anymore. Arthas, of course, was so hell-bent on getting vengeance that he eventually went insane and didn't care who he killed as long as he could inflict as much death and destruction as possible. Baron Rivendare is another example of someone who thought being a death knight would be pretty cool. Your character is much less likely to have actually chosen to become a death knight like this, simply because, if you wanted to serve the Lich King so much, you wouldn't leave, even if you had the chance? Our death knight characters may be rotten scoundrels, wicked to the core, but for whatever reason, they don't like the Scourge very much. They were probably actually good people once, and now that they have their free will back, for the most part, the Knights of the Ebon Blade (of which your character is one) seem to want to go back to being good insofar as it is possible to do that when you're an undead master of necromantic rune magic.
Guilt
So what would it have been like to be under the spell of the Lich King like that? What memories of those dark days would your character carry around? The easiest way to deal with these issues is to say that your character has no memory of that time -- you were possessed and therefore not at all responsible (even to yourself) for any of your actions while under the influence of undead mind control. This may be the best possibility for some characters, especially those who want to maintain more innocence and goodness, but to some roleplayers it will feel like a cop out. Should we go deeper?
From my experience playing through the death knight starting zone, it didn't seem to me like my character (or any others, for that matter) was under the complete control of the Lich King. That's to say, of course the Lich King told me what to do and I had to obey, but I always got the feeling that the exact way in which I obeyed was really up to me. I felt as though I almost had enough strength to actually disobey and just let myself be cast aside as a sort of martyr, possibly like one of the other "unworthy initiates" you see in that starting area. There are also small choices you can make which the Lich King doesn't seem to be entirely aware of (such as your choice to listen to your old friend rather than just dispatch him or her right away).
This sense of limited free will makes me feel as though my character should remember every bit of those dark days, every evil action committed, as if it were his own. Naturally, in his mind he understands he could not fully control himself, but in his heart he would feel guilty for all that senseless killing he wrought with his own hands. Now, he would want to redeem himself. Even though he can no longer go back to the way things were, take up his old magic and fight as one of the living, at least he can use his new powers, his curse, for the greater good.
That is far from the only option, however. Another character could simply wander about the world rather lost, actually missing the voice of the Lich King in his or her mind; perhaps the original identity has been mostly destroyed and all that remains is this shell that does pretty much whatever other people tell it to do. Someone else could be a borderline psychopath, such as a former priest who used to clean up after everyone else, healing wounds and such, and now takes a bit too much pleasure in his or her own killing sprees -- all the while convincing him or herself that it's okay to enjoy killing this much because he or she is on the side of the good guys now. Yet another character may feel that his or her actions under Scourge command were perfectly acceptable because those Scarlet Crusaders were evil and deserved to die anyways; sorry about the mothers and peasants that died, of course, but honestly they should have been over in Stormwind with the good humans rather than hanging out near Tyr's Hand with a fanatical terrorist organization like the Scarlet Crusade. The truth of these things is not so simple, of course, but in the end what really matters isn't what's true, it's what your character thinks is true.
A small note about peer pressure
What other people think is true about you is another story altogether though. Naturally the opinions of society will have a great impact on your character's own impression of him or herself, too. Thrall and Wrynn have each commanded their people to show you respect, but likely that respect doesn't go very deep for most common folk. Do they say "hello sir" and sell you their wares, all the while sneering at you behind your back? Does everyone you meet cower slightly at the sight of you, or treat you like just another shmuck with a sword walking around town with a bad attitude? All that is up to other roleplayers on your server of course, but your reaction to it is up to you.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 4)
Zallgrin Aug 4th 2009 7:18AM
I was going to RP as a necromancer as well and I was really happy to find this comment. Glad to hear you were successful with your spec up till now, but Outlands is pretty much a faceroll for a DK. Northrend is a lot harder and I wonder how hard it would be to quest through with this play style. I would love to hear something from you, Dyaan.
Kia Dec 22nd 2008 3:19AM
Good read. My blood elf is one of those DKs who hates doing what she did, but she doesn't spend her time brooding over it constantly. Sure, it crosses her mind, and it's not likely she'll ever -truly- push it out, but she's still capable of coming to terms with her new existence without being an angst-shell.
She's been hated on in Silvermoon a few times after just trying to see what it's like now, but she isn't blaming anyone for it. She lets the insults and curses hit her and she turns the other cheek, frosting over a drink in the inn and ruminating over what to do with herself now. She's just kind of wandering at the moment. Not really sure what she's going to do now that she has a "third" chance at life. (Life, Undeath, Undeath with free will).
Marluxia.Kyoshu Dec 22nd 2008 3:21AM
My Death Knight is a night elf female who actually betrayed Elune. She was young, perhaps 100-200 years old, and upon hearing of the scourge invasion, left to join in the chaos. She had killed before when she was very young, and enjoyed it. She was somewhat of a regular murderer before joining the King.
After joining him and the scourge, she lost all semblance of sanity, her only direction being what the King told her to do. She tried to stay with the king, but the Knights of the Ebon Blade took advantage of her frail mind and commanded her to do their bidding instead.
After, her psychological state was in such shambles she couldn't actually do anything for a week or two. She one day connected bits and pieces of her mind together to form some sort of working mind. She is now a psychotic killer, who speaks and acts as if she were a child. She understands there are certain people she /can't/ kill, otherwise she wouldn't be able to reap the rewards of her quests.
In the end, the only reason she ever does anything is in the pursuit of increasing her own power. (She's also an engineer, explosives just scream 'more power')
I just had a bit of a question, is there anything wrong with the above story that would not fit into the lore, from an RP standpoint? I've tried to keep it within the bounds of the lore but I'm not sure...
jbodar Dec 22nd 2008 5:19AM
Hardcore and a bit creepy. Thumbs up!
Fabel Dec 22nd 2008 5:43AM
I enjoyed killing my friend and I serve Arthas with proud. I just gather information disguised as an horde until my master calls me by his side.
ZuWho Dec 22nd 2008 5:48AM
I got refered to in a wow insider post? I feel almost famouse ^^
David I LOVE you! Hugs and Kisses. This is a great artical!
Okay then, now I've got it all sorted out in my mind I think,
So I want my Death Knight's personality to have been deeply changed by once sharing their will with the Lich King's. Whist they know They want nothing more than redemption, to the point they will dress up in Pally gear just to pretend, killing innocent people has broke their self esteam, and she or he will oftern think almost lovingly towards what was the Lich King's guidence in their heads.
Aubrecia Dec 22nd 2008 7:17AM
I don't RP a DK, but the option I see is that yours could be disheartened by the likely-constant scorn they get from members of their own faction as well as members of the Argent Crusade. Nobody seems to really trust Death Knights in lore (with good reason). Perhaps your DK remembers that Arthas might not have had faith in him/her, per se, but regardless never doubted his/her will to do the job no matter what it took. The Lich King wasn't afraid to grant you responsibilities, and never resented you or gave you orders begrudgingly while under his command. Going from working for a man who was eager to use all of your talents, even if he did betray you, to allies who would probably not mind to see you dead, is probably a massive change for your character, and one that might make them have second thoughts about their turnaround.
Eisengel Dec 22nd 2008 7:07AM
I don't see why you can't have a middle ground... that your DK's motivations from life are twisted in death.
My DK was a zealous Tauren Druid who sought to destroy as much Scourge as he could. The Scourge do not fit into the great cycle of death and rebirth, and to his mind, were things that should not be. They were things that needed to be unmade since they perverted the Earth Mother's balance. He joined the Scarlet Crusade, tolerating some of their more questionable acts since they were working to set Azeroth back to order. He gained a reputation as a strong front-line soldier and a thoughtful tactician. He fell in mostly among the Night Elves, who seemed to practice the same type of magic, but kept claiming it came from the Moon and some Tree in a Well...
That was, until he fell, far from the main forces in a desperate ambush made of Druids and Rogues in an attempt to take down Baron Rivendare as he rode to a new command.
Then he opened his eyes again, and rose, and standing over him, the Lich King. The words 'tell me what you see...' echoed in his head. He looked around, and in the cold, calculating, unfeeling clarity of death he realized he had had it wrong. Yes, balance needed to be restored. The sentient beings of the world on the whole did not live in harmony with it... they cut down trees and quarried stone. They cleared land and farmed it. They raised animals in pens for the slaughter. They were changing the land, they were running rampant across the Earth Mother. Even his own people had once been noble nomadic tribes, now they sat and grew fat on a bluff, far removed from the holy Hunt.
The Lich King's cobalt gaze locked on his.
"There are too many beings living in this cramped place. They destroy the world around them. They are not in balance. They must be cut back, culled."
The Lich King extended an arm, and a sword from a fallen Scourge Captain sprang to his hand. He offered it...
"Then what will you do?" echoed in his head...
He reached forward, and took the blade. It looked so large and heavy, but felt surprisingly light.
"I will cut them back. I will prune them, like diseased leaves or dead branches."
"They will hate you..." echoed in head...
"A weed does not ask permission to grow, nor do these beings. They must be culled, for their own good."
"Good. From this day forth you are Seggrbrotna, the man-breaker... do not fall again..."
Aubrecia Dec 22nd 2008 7:13AM
I have to say, this is one of my favorites so far on this post. I think it captures how you can have both "died and raised by Arthas" and "joined forces with the Lich King willingly" in the same story, and I actually got a bit of a chill down my spine. Applause to you, fellow Tauren!
Eisengel Dec 22nd 2008 3:46PM
ty, Aubrecia. :^)
To extend a little, he doesn't necessarily care whom he kills for, so long as they don't try to stop him. He left the service of the Lich King after the battle of Light's Hope when he saw that the Lich King's agenda could harm his own mission.. namely, the Lich King didn't care if he got Seggrbrotna killed... and Seggerbrotna viewed his mission of restoring the balance of the planet as too important to be trusted to a leader who only wants to use him as a speed bump.
I'm not on an RP server, but I have my fun. In general when I'm in a quest zone, I never mount up. I walk from my quest giver to my objective... and anything in my way... isn't in my way for very long. At the moment killing humans in the Plaguelands for the Lich King versus killing humans for the Forsaken in New Hearthglen is pretty much the same.
araquen Dec 22nd 2008 7:27AM
On beta, I used the name for my max-level druid. The idea was that my DK would have been a druid first before succumbing to the Lich King (there was additional backstory where she had lost someone very dear to her, and as a result, succumbed to despair and essentially did not fight hard enough when the Scourge came for her--hence her initial conversion).
I found that the DK start zone was much more profound having my toon's past life being my leveling experiences with her--but between that one particular quest in the DK start zone and extrapolating just what she had lost in being turned, it almost became too unbearable to play the toon (a little too much immersion, methinks).
In any event, I also found it impactful to return to your start zone. It really underscores the sense of alienation from your kind--even if they are not screaming at you in fear.
In the end, I opted out of playing my DK as my druid main, mostly because of that quest where you meet your future self. Since your future self is clearly whatever class you are, having that kind of switch would not be logical.
Amaxe Dec 22nd 2008 7:28AM
I must have overlooked the part of the DKs being dead, because it caught me by surprise to see it here. Guess I'll have to wait til 3.0.8 and see the opening sequence again (not planning to reroll my DK)
A bit of a disappointment here (for me at least) since it seems to be problematic from a faction perspective [technically you are a Forsaken then and why the Alliance would accept them seems more dubious] and from a concept of the quests seeming in conflict with that view.
I had envisioned the DK being one of the heroes of the Alliance (or Horde) who had decided that Arthas was going to win or were seduced by the desire for more power, though were morally troubled by some of the actions you were called to do, culminating in http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Special_Surprise and finally breaking away by learning Arthas viewed you as expendable rabble.
The problem I have with the Blizzard conception is their quest chain strikes me as one involving free will and being sent to do quests that essentially meant "no way back." This concept of the DK given in the quests seems vastly out of line with what the lore given here says.
My fault for not paying enough attention of course (I rolled it about midnight, after playing my main the first day LK came out), but the RP seems much more disappointing to me with these limitations
Nagi Dec 22nd 2008 7:31AM
Interesting column. I have to say reasing "All the World's a Stage" has become a regular Sunday ritual that I look forward to every Sunday like clockwork.
As for my own death knight, the briefest terms I can use to describe her pre-death-knighting would be "the Princess Di of the Alliance." Noble by marriage instead of birth, charitable to the people, generally well loved by the common folk of Silvermoon and Lordaeron alike. When Arthas comes along and sacks Quel'Thalas to get to the Sunwell, he recognizes her, and purely to wound the morale of the Alliance's people he kills her and has her brought back as one of his servants.
Not exactly physically built for combat in life, she spends much of her time as a death knight under Arthas well away from the front lines, doing security duties within Acherus and so forth, only really stepping out into the public light when Arthas felt the need to damage the will of the innocent peasants and low-level soldiers in his path. However, as Arthas's campaign across New Avalon and Havenshire begins (and I admit, this part sounds a little Mary Sue-ish, but you only have the Desecration talent in the Unholy Tree to blame for inspiring me), the control Arthas has over her begins to be shaken by the calls of the dead high elves of Silvermoon and humans of Lordaeron. Feeling an opportunity with the Ashbringer's resurrection nearing and whatnot, the dead souls that so loved her in life attempt to reach her and turn her away from the Lich King's influence, which ultimately succeeds at the battle at Light's Hope.
Having spent much of her enslavement deep within the bowels of Acherus, her first steps into modern Azeroth are a bit disorienting, what with seeing "her children" (as she once called them) allied with the orcs, seeing orcs and trolls building a civilized society, and seeing that the surviving humans have (in her eyes) so coldly turned their backs on their former allies of Silvermoon and Lordaeron without so much as an offer to help them. As a result, while she still finds it hard to trust the orcs, she begrudgingly pledges allegiance to the Horde for all it's done to give haven to her people.
Currently she spends much of her time wandering Azeroth a little aimless, seeking ways to redeem herself for her time under Arthas's control, put the dead of Old Silvermoon that claw unsettlingly at her feet (every time Desecration procs, those be high elfen hands beneath her) to rest, and just come to understand the circumstances that have made the world so bizarre since the days of the Third War. Understandably, she's currently residing in Shattrath in the Outlands, in order to put some distance between her and Azeroth while she makes sense of it all, and at the same time performs some cleanup work for the Horde from its campaign against the Legion forces there as part of her self-imposed "penance."
And I promise you, my non-DK characters aren't nearly as Mary Sue-like. Once again, you have some of the Unholy Tree's talents to blame for me going a little nuts here.
Kia Dec 22nd 2008 12:00PM
I actually like that story a fair bit. Might want to steer away from using "Princess Di of the alliance" though.
Random Dec 22nd 2008 7:39AM
My DK is a Gnome who spends most of his time pimping out female DK BElf's and what not. In his spare time he likes to wack Murloks and give trolls wedgies. He goes into sneezing fits whenever he hears mention of the Lich King and generaly likes to pretend he was working at Walmart not slaughtering the innocent during most of his "possesed days". He only ventures out only at night to do his killing, mostly because his blue eyes look kick ass in the dark and partly because he's just a lazy gnome who likes to sleep in...
Damon Dec 22nd 2008 7:37AM
My death knight was a grimtotem that got killed by a low-level adventurer in stonetalon mountains whose body was recovered by the scourge in razorfen. It's fun because she keeps accusing the people she meets of being her killer. Not that she really cares, seeing as now she's a superpowered deathfueled killing machine.
She also has kept all her beliefs about kalimdor belonging to the tauren, and only the tauren. It's nice to roleplay a total scumbag who people actually find entertaining.
Cyrus Dec 22nd 2008 7:41AM
"They were probably actually good people once, and now that they have their free will back, for the most part, the Knights of the Ebon Blade (of which your character is one) seem to want to go back to being good insofar as it is possible..."
Are you sure about that? I can't quote any specific NPCs from memory, but I got the definite impression that the Order of the Ebon Blade was only allied with the Alliance and the Horde against the Scourge, a common enemy, and it was anyone's guess if they would remain allied when Arthas is finally killed. And then there's that poor Cenarion Circle druid who a DK trainer kills in Acherus. You can guess at a reason that was morally OK (the Circle was infiltrated by the Cult of the Damned, or that particular teacher is still evil and the DKs tolerate his methods because he's a good teacher, or they absolutely needed to kill a non-Scourge-aligned human and they feel really really bad about it*), but just taking it at face value, it sure doesn't look "good insofar as it is possible."
It seems to me that DKs are like the Forsaken. Some individuals among them maybe be good and honorable and maybe even happy in theory (that Forsaken leader at Light's Hope Chapel or in the Argent Crusade, any RPers who want to be, Sylvanas), but the majority of the population, the main political organization (the Knights of the Ebon Blade, the Royal Apothecary Society) and most quest-givers are vengeful, expansionist and view their allies as cannon fodder at best.
* This is interesting. Maybe even good DKs have a built-in compulsion to kill people and players satisfy that need through questing and PvP, but the NPCs in Acherus, with no living thing nearby, need to capture innocent victims from among their allies?
Amaxe Dec 22nd 2008 10:35AM
Well put. The Ebon Blade gives me the impression that they view the Alliance as allies of convenience, whith the Alliance morally troubled by the Ebon Blade and their "Ends Justify the Means" view.
It could very well be that in the future the Ebon Blade (once Arthas is defeated) becomes a menace to the Horde and Alliance because the latter two took a short sighted view towards defeating Arthas with no thought for "after"
My main (Draenei Shaman) runs quests with EB, but is morally troubled by what they are doing, and struggles whether she is accepting evil in doing these quests, only running the quests she sees as being in tune with doing good and opposing evil.
My DK is essentially "lost." Having joined and then turned coat against Arthas, she is disillusoned and seeks a purpose. Arthas is her enemy, but she is much more pragmatic than my main. She struggles with despair and apathy, wondering if anything matters
Kymali Dec 22nd 2008 8:29AM
DK's are all undead. Read your class mount tooltip :)
scelerat Dec 22nd 2008 9:49AM
My gnome was, in life, Thompkins the Awesome, Conjurer Extraordinaire. If you can't tell, he was a bit of a megalomaniac. This hasn't changed with death. He wanted power, and not just power, but POWER. He wanted to take back Gnomergan. He wanted to do a great many things.
And then he died, and the Lich King said hello. He offered Thompkins the power he was craving, enough to reclaim Gnomer all by himself. Naturally, he accepted and became a Death Knight. And he was the best damned DK that he could be. But as time went by, he found that the Scourge was no damned different than anyone else, they overlooked the gnomes as well. No matter how efficient of a killing machine he became, he couldn't attain a post in the most vaunted of Necropolises, Naxxaramas. They would shuffle him off to somewhere useless and squander his abilities.
Then the Lich King had the audacity to use him, Thompkins the Awesome, as FODDER at Light's Hope Chapel. Unacceptable. His rage broke him free from command, and he re-joined the Alliance. Though it grates on him to fight alongside people who have so much power, but have done nothing to reclaim his Gnomergan. As such, he's been speaking out for the Gnomes to secede from the Alliance and join the Horde, because, honestly, Thrall would get s#*t done.
And he takes especial pleasure in returning to Naxx to kill all of the Death Knights that wouldn't let him join, especially that bastard, Rivendare.