It's not raw numbers that is the problem, it's getting everyone to follow directions. Do you use vent in BG with non-guildies? How do you threaten/cajol these people to listen.

Who leads it?


Look, I started in 2005. I did everything up to AQ40 (I couldn't be bothered to gather the mats to do Naxx). There are great memories from our first time downing Rags, or executus, or Osirian, but many, many canceled raid nights when tanks 3 and 4 couldn't make it. Many, Many frustrations when someone blew up my group because they couldn't be bothered to see that they were the bomb.

The problem with nostalgia is that it's like taking a seive to your memories. you strain out all the junk and bad and all you're left with is the warm memeories. 40 mans were just as much, if not more, frustrating and hard as BC was. Maybe it was for different reasons --LOOT THE CORE HOUND, Go get the fire buff, Where's the next spire??--but just because it happened first, doesn't mean it was best.

Me? I love 10 mans. There's a true sense of comradre in there. I run with the same 10 people each week (my guild is big enough for 3 10 naxxes a week). We do the 25 mans too, but there approached with more seriousness than the 10 mans.

I guess, for me, the more people you add, the more likely you can't be yourself. Raiding in the 40 mans was like a career: either you did only that and spent your entire week getting ready for it (if you did it casually, then you were part of the 15 everyone else was carrying) or you didn't raid. 25 mans are like a job. You get paid for that effort, but sometimes it's effort.

10 mans are like hanging out with your friends. Yeah, sometimes you go places, but mostly, you're just there for the ride.

/my2cents.