Wrath 101: Honor points

This brought us to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, a whole lot of players are going to be accumulating Honor pretty soon without them knowing it. He thinks that a lot of players, mostly strictly-PvE carebears, would be curious enough about Wintergrasp to try it out... and hopefully enjoy it enough to play it again. I hope so, too. This means a whole lot of players who'd never PvP'd before, like Dan, for example, would need some sort of guide on Honor points and what to do with them. Here's where we step in with this handy little Honor overview.
What are Honor points and how do I get them?
Honor points are a type of currency used to purchase rewards in the game. Just like Emblems or Badges from dungeons, the amount of Honor you have can be tracked through the Currency tab in your Character panel. Unlike other types of currency, however, you do not loot Honor. You automatically gain Honor from participating in killing players or key NPCs of the opposing faction. As long as those players or NPCs aren't gray (too low level) to you, they will count as an Honorable Kill (HK).
The amount of Honor gained from each HK varies greatly. It used to be based on the obsolete PvP Rank system, but now that those ranks are merely cosmetic, the base Honor gained from a player is dependent purely on their level versus your level (higher level players are worth more Honor to lower level players). This Honor gain is adjusted depending on other factors such as the number of players in the vicinity -- e.g., if you killed a player solo, you would generally gain more Honor than if you killed one with a group. Certain buffs also adjust Honor gain, such as the buffs in Wintergrasp like Honorable, Great Honor, Greater Honor, and Greatest Honor for the Alliance; and Lok-regar, Lok-narash, Lok'tar, and Lok'tar Ogar! for the Horde. Honor is also granted by some quests, particularly PvP ones, as a bonus reward in addition to Gold or experience.
What can I buy with Honor points?
Cool stuff! No, really. Honor points can be used to buy rare or epic item rewards from vendors in Stormwind and Orgrimmar. Naturally, most of these item rewards are PvP-oriented, which means a lot of the item points are spent towards Resilience. You won't need Resilience for your heroic runs or raids, but sometimes the items are good enough for you to get until you get a better item from PvE.
Hateful Gladiator non-set items, for example, are Level 80 epic gear that are purchaseable purely with Honor points and don't require any Arena ratings. This means that any Level 80 player with enough Honor can buy them. PvP items are made for PvP, so generally they will be loaded with Stamina and Resilience, which won't be terribly useful to you in instances. Even tanks will be better served by dungeon drops with the proper mitigation stats. Aside from non-set items, Honor points can be used to purchase complete sets of the rare Savage Gladiator PvP gear and as partial currency for epic Hateful Gladiator gear.
If you're not going to use the items for PvE, there are Jewelcrafting recipes available for the low cost of 1,250 Honor points. That's like one Honorable Kill above the Honor you gain from a Wintergrasp daily quest. Most of the designs are PvP-oriented, of course, with many of them containing Resilience. Some have odd combinations that might appeal to a few players, like Shattered Dark Jade, which has Haste and Spell Penetration. You can also buy Star's Sorrow, the only Level 75 water that's usable in Arenas.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 4)
Then Gabe Dec 25th 2008 10:48PM
"strictly-PvE carebears"
Way to insult a good portion of your reader base. I personally enjoy BGs every now and then, but I'm mostly PvE. Good to know that I'm not really "worthy" of PvP gear in the eyes of people like yourself.
Zach Dec 26th 2008 12:39AM
Sensitive, aren't we? I never saw carebear as a derogatory term and certainly didn't intend to use it as such. If you're offended by something as trivial as that, there's little I can do.
My wife abhors PvP and she likes the term carebear. *shrug*
Melenor Dec 26th 2008 10:00AM
Zach: I'm pretty sure Care Bears was a children's cartoon in which adorable stuffed animals shot rainbows out of hearts affixed to their stomachs. I don't really want to be lumped into that category, but didn't find the term off-putting in your article's context, either. To each their own, I suppose!
Then Gabe Dec 26th 2008 1:51AM
Well my wife loves PVP and hates the term "carebear". See what I did there? Your anecdotal evidence means absolutely zed, zip, zilch, nada.
Kyle Dec 26th 2008 2:34AM
Zach, you're not going to gain any readers with comments like these. Ya know, an apology isn't that hard to type. Anyway, I know I'll be one of the ones avoiding any more articles written by you.
Usdom Dec 25th 2008 10:56PM
I'm Usdom, Warlock, and I'm a jackass.
But it still pisses me off they removed the 70 PVP gear.
Amaxe Dec 25th 2008 11:05PM
"strictly-PvE carebears"
You realize some of us hate it for reasons that have nothing to do with being "too difficult." We like it in small doses sans arena. But PvP has its problems... Things like the repetitiveness, the smacktards in the raid channels and so on.
A pity one of the smacktards found their way onto being able to post a WoW Insider article.
Zach Dec 26th 2008 12:42AM
Carebear is insulting to you, yet you manage to sneak smacktard into your comments?
Wow.
Amaxe Dec 26th 2008 10:36AM
If you act like a smacktard, you get the label.
You equated all PVE only types as "Care Bears" (implying they can't handle the "real WoW") while I made the point that *some* PvPers are smacktards... mainly the rude ones, the elitists, the ones who claim that only PvPers are "true" WoW players.
Really, you have nobody to blame but yourself for the negative responses you've received. Why not admit you made a gross misjudgment in your attempt to be "funny"?
vazhkatsi Dec 26th 2008 8:58AM
Seeing as there is no dictionary with a definition of carebear, i doubt very much that your definition is 100% the only definition. I do mostly PVE and i don't find carebear insulting, but i do find it fitting for some people. the carebears don't like to hurt other people, neither do certain people in game. more importantly, for people who have 0 honorkills on all their characters, of which i know a few. people who avoid pvp like the plague, no they're not "carebear" they are "pve centric" or "allergic to pvp"
Amaxe Dec 26th 2008 9:26AM
All of which, assuming he meant that, could have been said.
No, I assume he was trying to be funny, but failed. He *could* have pulled it off of course... pretending to be unbiased and then throwing in a comment (showing that he was pretending to be biased but not noticing his bias) followed by the wink or tongue emote.
I don't particularly like PvP, but I did my time, got 5600 HKs and will probably get more as i go for the Winter Veil achievement, like AV (except when we get the "OMFG Worst group evar" morons), don't like the others (haven't tried SOA yet) and hate arena.
I obviously don't fit your definition, but the Author seems to think I fit in with all the others
Zach Dec 26th 2008 10:42AM
@Amaxe - You got all that from one sentence where I said I hope more carebears play Wintergrasp and enjoy it?
Seriously.
Where did I ever imply that you, or anybody for that matter, couldn't handle the "real WoW"? What the hell is the "real WoW" anyway?
Amaxe Dec 26th 2008 12:56PM
You're determined to have us all bow to your wisdom I see, where we say "Wow, we're a bunch of idiots to know what he was thinking even though it did not make it down to paper."
Maybe you are indeed naive enough not to realize the sizeable portion of PvP jerks out there who, while not a majority by any means, are large enough to discourage people from playing.
Maybe you used a term you thought amusing while not understanding the connotation.
Maybe you haven't run across the jerks who argue "the only real WoW is PVP and the rest can't hack it."
They say "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck..."
Maybe in your case it is not a duck but a "rare south American parrot"
But the point is you did choose to use terms that come from a group of PvPers who are monumental jerks.
There is indeed a faction in WoW who believes anything not as "hardcore" as them is "lame", "QQ", "carebear" and so on. You used terms that would alienate and offend.
I'll accept your claim that you were unaware of the baggage attached to it all and withdraw the "smacktard" label this time and let future articles determine your real attitude.
But if you want to be a writer, you have to learn that there are times that humor utterly fails, you inadvertently cross the line and need to stop digging the hole deeper, taking offense at others offense.
Usdom Dec 25th 2008 11:41PM
I find it amusing how offended people are by the term carebear. The writer is saying that there are people who don't enjoy the suffering of others in PVP so he applauds blizzard for giving them a way to access PVP gear and you are mad at him him for it?
Knee jerk reaction much?
People who are offended by the term carebear are typically those people who are unable to survive in PVP anyway. They are afraid to fail so they never try. I think we just need to stop using this term that offends them 'Carebear' and come up with something more appropriate. Something more to the truth of the matter. I think the appropriate term should be cowards.
Anything worth doing is worth failing at until you get it right. Learn this and your life will be better. Live in fear of failing and your life will just be one long, boring, walk down mediocrity lane.
Kylenne Dec 26th 2008 5:41PM
Or, you know, some of us "carebears" could hate PVP because we don't feel it's worth our time to deal with the immaturity of 90% of zomghardk0r3!!!!11 PVPers.
FFS, not every PvE diehard is "afraid" to PVP. I'm certainly not. A lot of us don't PVP because we simply don't think it's something worth our time. And a hell of a lot of us resent the viability of our classes in PvE hinging on a busted, broken, stupid minigame that we have no interest in. Imagine that.
Calybos Dec 26th 2008 10:43PM
And there you have it in a nutshell, folks.
"People who are offended by the term carebear are typically those people who are unable to survive in PVP anyway.... I think the appropriate term should be cowards."
This is why so many mature gamers want nothing to do with the PVP jackasses who prance and preen about how "awsum" they are.
Lemons Dec 26th 2008 12:48AM
There's actually some pvp gear that can be useful for pve, for the first time ever you'll see +hit on a piece of pvp gear that's not a set piece, I'm talking about the items with the "of Victory" moniker at the end.
Blizz realized in thier infinate wisdom that pvpers wouldn't be able to make the pvp hit cap by the normal means (stuffing your armor full for hit gems until it's bursting at the seams), so they decided to put some hit on the hateful off pieces. I think there is a cloak and a neckpiece to be had, maybe one more thing but I forget, honestly.
I'd say for some1 who needs a little more hit rating and has some extra honor points laying around those pieces are the closest thing to acceptable for pve that the honor system provides at this point.
Melenor Dec 26th 2008 1:08AM
"strictly-PvE carebears"
...
Just kidding, I just wanted you to think there was going to be another dumb comment about that.
No, I didn't actually just contribute anything beneficial at all.
Valimonde Dec 26th 2008 2:02AM
wow, Zach, welcome to the looser list of WoW Insider authors. Seems the way the whole contributing staff is heading. No wonder you have lost so many "good" and talented people of late.
profglitch Dec 26th 2008 3:18AM
To those who are getting upset about the term "carebear" implying you're not good enough for PvP gear: you're not. This is why you are relegated to blues for the main set. Blizzard fixed a problem with TBC pretty nicely, I'd say.