There is a loot option that can solve it... Master Looter. If you have a class X that really wants drop Y, then tell the person you're inviting 'our X has been trying for a long time to get Y to drop, so we're running master looter and if it drops, they'll get it with no roll. Everything else is business as usual... on specs roll 1st, off specs roll 2nd, need for immediate upgrades, greed for all else.' If they aren't happy with that, you can keep looking. As long as you spell things out at the beginning, and adhere to whatever you said, I don't see a problem with adding additional loot rules.

I try to comply with my group members requests. I don't beleive I kicked someone to avoid competition on drops(as in the past most gear i wanted was dps offspec since i was pretty geared); however, the only times I did NOT join a group was over the Sun Eater from hMechanar and The Red Sword of Courage from hUtgarde Pinnacle. Both people who pm'd me asked me if I wanted to go and told me they wanted the item and was dpsing till their set was good enough. I've run hUP 23 times for that sword and for hMech I NEVER saw that sword and have been exalted with the Sha'tar many times over, I told them that and I'd really really really rather not have the competition. Knowing my luck, it will drop and id lose it. The last few times ive had to roll for anything ive rolled in sequence a 2, 9, and a 3.

@Eisengel.... I don't stay in PUGs with ML on if I don't know the person who's ML.

Loot drama is almost always the sign of an immature player - no single piece of loot will make or break your toon and overfocusing on one drop isn't really rational. For example, I'd love the War Mace... but I've got the Wyrmrest revered one which is very good and while the extra 50sp would be nice, I won't die if I don't get it. On the other hand, if I run things a lot I'll get badges... and with that be able to upgrade other slots.

Yes, it's frustrating to want one last drop to fill out your toon and see it go to someone else... but if you *insist* on getting it or you won't go.... /bye.

Of the heroic runs I've been in, both the dps warrior and the healadin had the grace to let me have my prot gear that dropped. (Even though they both wanted my shield and my pants -_-+ for off specs) It's rather stupid, rolling on gear when you have someone in the group that is a main (for example) tank who needs it.

DPS who claim, "I will tank eventually when I stop leveling/soloing, etc," should learn they can't have it all. You're either DPS or you're not, you can't roll on both if that means stealing it from other people who will immediately find a use for it. I think that people should roll only for their main spec and if no one wants it then is the time to pick up for off spec.

Off note:

Apparently the holy pally was running the instance to get these pants in "case" he has to tank, however I went as a tank directly needing the same pants. Who is more deserving? A tank who is main tanking immediately or the holy pally who does it on the fly?

My concern is why should one person gear up two specs before someone can even gear up one?