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12-27-2008 @ 6:18PM
I dont get the deep freeze whine at all ! Its stupid, its a 51 point talent in a pvp that does a 5 second stun on a 30 second cooldown. It also works within 41 yards. Its a brilliant talent exactly where it is. And your giving out because you cant use it as a damage spell in pve ? Firstly its a pvp tree and its dps in raids shows it as such. Secondly, theres no reason to waste a fingers of frost on spell that costs more than icelance and probably does more damage. Thirdly, its already pretty crazy to be able to stun and get freeze bonus damage, but the ability to do more damage on top of the large amount of burst you`d already do with shatter and ice lance.in short, deep freeze is fine, its a pvp/soloing talent in a pvp/soloing tree.
12-27-2008 @ 7:59PM
Yeah, all that great 'old' conventional logic is fine, but it flies in the face of the fact that Blizzard has said they don't want any one tree dominating the other in single areas of game play. FFB isn't the "top mage DPS" spec because the Dev's sat around and said "lets make FFB the only viable raiding spec for mages"nor did they sit around and say "frost should be the only viable PvP spec" .. They want the trees closer than they are right now.I frankly pretty much refuse to spec into FFB BECAUSE it's the best. I rather come up with a new Frost/Arcane build frankly. Aside from that, I'm already blowing our FFB specced mage out of the water on the DPS meters anyways. I'd rather have someone good at an inferior spec, than someone who's inferior with a good spec.
12-28-2008 @ 1:31AM
What happens when you meet someone who's good with a good spec? :Pfwoosh!That was the sound of your mind imploding...
12-28-2008 @ 3:00PM
Sure, except Blizzard has said a million times they don't want classes to have PvP/soloing trees, that all of them should be raid viable within a certain wiggle room. It's not only not true but not having a 51 talent worth putting a single point in is part of that. Obviously they can't just dump damage on the spell; it'd be nuts in PvP. The spell itself was a bad idea.To Linara:"I frankly pretty much refuse to spec into FFB BECAUSE it's the best. I rather come up with a new Frost/Arcane build frankly."God help you when your favorite band somehow trips over a monster hit.I respec to my friend frost (frost/torment actually) every now and again on a farm raid in the irrational hope that *this* time I won't lose 30% of my damage. Always do.
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