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12-29-2008 @ 12:47AM
Please, for the love of god and as a modern druid myself, do NOT go around telling people to study Wicca of all things. -_-;This was a great post up until that point, and I suggest you strike it from your writing. At least replace it with neopagan or even modern druidic religion instead. Wicca has absolutely nothing to do with druidry, going on about its covens and its witches and blah blah blah.I know it wasn't intentional, but turning to Wicca for a source on how to be a good druid is a real affront.
12-29-2008 @ 1:29AM
Wicca is a "nature-based" religion, his wording wasn't incorrect.
12-29-2008 @ 1:48AM
I studied Wicca many years ago myself, and while I fully admit I'm quite ignorant on the beliefs of modern day druids, why don't you enlighten us?I'm not at all trying to pick a fight, but I'm curious what are the base rules of the druidic belief system. Wicca's not bad, it just focuses a lot more on energies and stuff like that.
12-29-2008 @ 1:50AM
Wicca can be a good introduction to a more naturalistic, humanistic religion than the patriarchal mystery religions that are so popular. In that way, it isn't a bad idea. Yes, a Witch is not a Druid, but in general the belief systems are a whole lot closer than something like Christianity or Islam. Keep in mind that Nature is utterly ruthless and fair. Today we have a definition of 'fair' that is closer to 'nice'. Fair does not mean nice, it means that everyone is equal. If a snake is able to surprise a cute, fuzzy mouse, the snake eats the mouse. They both had a chance to live, and for whatever reason the mouse was unable to save its own life... it then deserves to be eaten. There is no real good or bad, there is only preserving your life, keeping a full belly, and procreating. Druidic decisions may seem harsh or unfeeling, but they are mirroring Nature; they make dispassionate decisions about life and death based only on what must happen to preserve balance, not what they necessarily want to happen. Death is as much a part of life as eating or sleeping. Druids should be unafraid of both, and should be entirely willing to heal life or cut it down wherever necessary. People have no problem genocidally killing unwanted weeds or wiping out colonies of termites or ants.. they also have no problem overfeeding and causing dependence in local animals. A Druid does what is necessary to maintain the balance.
12-29-2008 @ 3:07AM
@ Matchu - His wording might not have technically been incorrect, but the fluffy carebearness of "And it harm none, do what thou wilt" of Wicca is a joke when it comes to actual druidic beliefs.@ Eisengel - This is pretty much why Wicca can't be compared to druidry a bit. It's all happy-happy joy joy and some hippie stuff, they don't get the "balance" of druidry at all. Never mind most anything else. Recently we had a large Maple grove in our yard that came under attack by an infestation of Ambrosia Beetles. By the time we realized it, several trees had to be cut down before things got worse, which warranted a blessing and thanks to the tree's spirit for its decades of providing for us. Still, it's a perfect example of having to prune regardless of it hurting.
12-29-2008 @ 9:25AM
Wicca stands alone as the most ridiculous, "I'm lying to myself" religion of all time. Please don't associate that with my druid.
12-29-2008 @ 11:58AM
The reason I mentioned Wicca here is because I knew some wiccans in college, and they seemed reasonable enough to me... certainly making an effort to connect to nature in their own way. I definitely agree that they are not druidism at all, but then this article isn't about real life druidism. Even the real historical druids I wrote about in the article linked at the end of this post are not at all the same thing as the druids of WoW. Warcraft druids are their own thing entirely, separate from all human religions, no matter what their name. I hope no one reads this article and says, "I can turn to Wicca to let me understand druidism better!" but rather, "I can read about these other ways of understanding humanity and nature in order to get some inspiration for how I will interpret the lore and experiences of my character." I mention the Tao first because to me it provides the most inspiration (short of just experiencing nature of course), and the others are just alternatives in case the Tao doesn't work for you.By all means, if you don't like Wicca then feel free to suggest something else you feel is a better inspiration. Someone else who likes it a lot, however, may feel there's a lot there to inspire you. Each reader can choose for him or herself.
12-29-2008 @ 12:48PM
@ James - So, so true. @ David - I've got nothing against anyone who chooses to follow it in particular, but the fact remains it's still a terrible example of what to turn to if you're looking to play a realistic druid, WoW or no. I suppose you could make the argument that some organization like the Cenarion Circle or w/e is the equivalent of a coven, but you could also make the argument that every druidic group is the same as a modern grove (what most groups would think of as a 'church.') Regardless, it's a bad connection. Druids are not going around with athames, not preaching (again) their fluffy pacifism, not running around with grimoires, etc.
12-29-2008 @ 5:34PM
@ James:the "lying to myself" putting-my-fingers-in-my-ears-and-singing-lalalalalala-while-you-tell-me-the-truth religion is, was, and always will be Christianity. No religion has caused so much death, prejudice, and stupidity. Not to mention obstruct scientific research and diplomatic growth. Do not insult the Wiccans, let them do what they will.
4-03-2012 @ 7:46PM
Ok for the record people who Wiccans believed that nature had healing powers much like the druids in Wow and they are not "witches"
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