Know Your Lore: The Sons of Hodir

Hi. You may remember me from not finishing the KYL on Thrall. Well, since this week our Alex Ziebart has to take a small breather, I'm filling in for him as part of our "Hey, I finished that post you didn't so you owe me, and also the pictures are back from the developer and I'd hate to have to post them to the website" arrangement. Alex informed me as he handed over the package in that park, just before my trained snipers totally failed me, that this week would be discussing the Sons of Hodir from a lore perspective. Since until such time as Agent Deathwolf tracks him down and retrieves the microfilm I have no choice, that will be the topic of today's post.
Since I happen to be exalted twice with these guys, it seems a fair enough question to ask who they are and where they come from. So far, we have fragments of the story, but not the whole picture as yet. If it even needs to be said at this late point, I will be dropping spoilers for Storm Peaks quests like they were remarkably heavy antiques that you asked me to help you move into your new apartment on the 17th floor and I wanted to make sure you never asked again.
If you're wondering who the Hodir that the Sons are sons of is, well, some clues are revealed in the quest Fate of the Titans, given by the wandering Titanic construct Creteus. Hodir is apparently one of a class of Titans or Titan creations (it's hard to tell which) called Watchers, and was entrusted with guardianship over the Temple of Winter after the Titans stuck the Old Gods into their prison within Azeroth. If you've run Halls of Stone and witnesses the Tribunal of Ages event, it's implied that the various entities like Loken, Thorim, Freya and Hodir himself were either appointed to watch over "Aesir and Vanir or in common nomenclator Storm and Earth Giants" or they were Aesir and Vanir themselves, meaning that Hodir is either a very old and powerful giant himself or a form of Titan or Titan construct. Not only are we unaware of exactly what Hodir is, we're not even sure exactly where he is, or most of the other designates either. All four of the watchers mention in Fate of the Titans, including Hodir (the designates mentioned in the quest are Tyr, Mimir, Freya and Hodir) are missing from their appointed temples. Investigating the Temple of Winter reveals that sulfurous entities of some sort killed the guardians there.
While we know that the Dragon Aspects were appointed at the same time to monitor the evolution of life on Azeroth, Hodir and the other designates seem to have been more focused on preventing the Old Gods from interfering with Azeroth and the compound at Ulduar. The Tribunal of Ages states that there was a global war between the watchers which began and ended with Loken who "neutralized all remaining Aesir and Vanir affecting termination of conflict " and then put the Vrykul, Earthen and other Titan constructs such as giants into some form of stasis. So it's possible Hodir is dead, or possibly just stuck inside Ulduar in the same manner as Thorim.
While we don't know what happened to Hodir, what happened to his people is fairly clear: Loken didn't want to fight Thorim in a straight up fight (since he'd lose) so he pinned the murder of Thorim's wife Sif on the Frost Giants (most likely their now deceased king Arngrim, who enjoyed a good meal of gigantic wyrms in life, and even in death still enjoys a squrimy repast once a day) leading Thorim, who is a very action oriented guy, to go declare war on the Sons. (It's not clear where Hodir was at this time. Was he already gone? Did Loken arrange for this little distraction to keep the other watchers off guard while he took them out one by one? We don't know yet.) After creating the Thunderfall region, Thorim slunk off to brood atop his Temple of Storms for a very long time, because the king of the Sons of Hodir (again, most likely Arngrim) placed a rune on the hammer preventing Thorim from getting it back. King Jokkum, the current ruler of the Sons, says it was the last thing his father ever did. Since you can find and accept quests from Arngrim's frozen corpse (which looks much like the frozen giants and dwarves in the Thunderfall, except it's seated) this would seem to confirm that Arngrim was indeed the patsy for Loken.
At some point either during or after this particular bit of bad business, the Sons found themselves at war with crazy Vrykul women who want to replace Sif as Thorim's wife. It's unclear why this war started, although it may have something to do with the Frost Vrykul just being loyal enough to Thorim to keep fighting after he stopped. When you arrive in the Storm Peaks, you soon find yourself embroiled in this ancient conflict, first on the Vrykul side, then after speaking to Thorim you end up helping the Sons in order to get Thorim his hammer and armor back. This leads Thorim to go fight Loken and you should really do that quest chain if you haven't already, I've probably spoiled it more than I should as it is. You're then tasked by King Jokkum with getting even, because by this point the giants are fully aware that Loken set them up in the first place, and also to kill Volkhan while you're at it. In order to get this far you will have had to do a series of quests retrieving various artifacts for the Sons, including the anvil of Fjorn, a fire giant. Thorim is actually the guy who asks you to whack Fjorn as a make up gift to the Sons, which begs all sorts of questions. Why do the Sons hate Fjorn and Volkhan? Are the fire giants responsible for the sulfur left behind at the Temple of Winter?
At any rate, the Sons will eventually task you to retrieve various artifacts of Hodir, including his spear, horn and hat (you can see my warrior floating in front of Hodir's chapeau in the accompanying image) which you then have to spend a lot of time thrusting, blowing and polishing in order to get the Sons to really like you. It's all ludicrously boisterous and almost parodically hyper-masculine, broken up only by feeding worms to King Jokkum's deceased father Arngrim and doing favors for a giant worg. The entire time I was working on these quests, I half expected King Jokkum to ask me if I liked gladiator movies.
And this is pretty much all we know about the lore behind the Sons at this time, although I'm sure Ulduar is going to reveal the ultimate fate of Hodir and the other watchers when the raid is finally introduced. I hope they're not dead or worse, forced into slavery to Yogg-Saron, but it's not looking good for them. Hopefully the Sons will get a chance to mount some sort of rescue operation. They have all his stuff in pristine condition by now, considering how much work legions of adventurers have put into maintaining it.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Odds and ends, Features, Know your Lore, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
elsk Jan 1st 2009 6:20PM
thats a terrible pic L2 turn gfx up b4 capturing
Umrtvovacz Jan 1st 2009 6:28PM
Indeed, I can't imagine some really plays on this stupid settings.
epsilon343 Jan 1st 2009 6:27PM
Could you try using real words next time? Or at least buy a complete keyboard next time you're at the store.
AutumnBringer Jan 1st 2009 6:38PM
that's a terrible sntnce, L2 turn up splng b4 posting
Lemons Jan 1st 2009 10:40PM
regardless of the way he said it it's still true that pic is terrible. That looks like a pic I'd take on my 10 year old comp while leaving the settings playable.
kalatash Jan 2nd 2009 12:50PM
...that's pretty much what my playing experience looks like. And I get something like 10 fps constantly. The only thing turned all the way up happens to be draw distance [I like seeing things before I'm right on top of them] and spell effects [so I can see the fire I'm not supposed to stand in].
Yeah, I need to upgrade.
The Hammer Jan 1st 2009 6:10PM
Isn't Freya in the Basin?
Moody Loner Jan 1st 2009 6:15PM
[An/The] Avatar of Freya is. Freya is dead, for certain values of dead. Unless she isn't.
No, I don't understand it either.
Viction Jan 1st 2009 6:17PM
thats just an avatar
crsh Jan 2nd 2009 5:21PM
Freya is MIA; whether she's dead, on sick leave or went mad like all the others is up for debate. The Avatar we see and interact with in the Basin is a facet of the original left behind to watch over the land, she cannot leave until her 'true self' is back (which she talks a little about during the quest line).
Joyous_Oblivion Jan 1st 2009 6:48PM
What I don't get is that people actually type like that (see elsk's post).
It prolly takes more time to type something in stupid 'leet' chat than actually writing it out in correct English.
And yes I know 'prolly' isn't correct English.
Sansarya Jan 1st 2009 8:12PM
Hodor Hodor ;)
jeanericuser001 Jan 1st 2009 8:45PM
From the minute I started doing quests with them and heard about the future instance, I had a feeling that these quests in some ways were gonna be the equivalent of the tempest keep quests you do prior prior to the sun well. In this case loken will probably be ressurrected and his new master revealed to be the lich king. Thorim's mount will probably be remade as a giant frost wyrm. Thorim and Hodir will probably be will be part of a quest to free the watchers. This will in turn lead to an epic quest to allign all the factions of northrend to make an assault on ice crown citadel. Its during that battle that a small 40 man group will slip into ice crown to face the lich king head on with the occasional assist from various factions. Of course thats just my opinion but it makes a lot of sense since there has to be a story start some where for the final assault on the lich king.
Briggs Jan 1st 2009 9:02PM
Except for the part where Loken makes it very clear that he follows Yogg-Saron.
More likely turn of events?
Yogg-Saron has somehow infested Ulduar and the place is a hive of Old God minions now. Titan creations affected by the Curse of Flesh and driven mad by the whisperings of Yogg-Saron roam the halls, just waiting for tasty adventurers to pop in for a snack.
rosencratz Jan 2nd 2009 6:19AM
Yep. It's gotta be Yogg-Saron in Ulduar... or atleast affecting Ulduar.
I have the distinct feeling that the first few bosses in that place will be Tyr, Hodir, Freya and Mimir due to some mind controllyness that forces them to do the Old gods will. Swiftly followed by Thorim quite likely and then maybe Loken(If his demise in HoS was soemwhat exagerated) before possibly Yoggy himself. Makes a bit of sense though I was also under the impression that Yoggs was under Grizzly Hills trying to grow a tree. So possibly we'll see a Yogg related lackey if Loken doesn't fit that role himself.
I only hope we can liberate the watchers rather than slay them in the battles. I've really enjoyed the lore of stormpeaks so far and it'd be a shame to slay all of those guys... i'd rather like to have a quest chain to return them all to their temples again(phased perhaps)
Another interesting thing to consider is the Faceless ones under Icecrown, how closely related is Mr Saron to the Lich King? First name terms? I've got to say future content patches have me most intrigued in Wrath.
Thiosion Jan 2nd 2009 10:14AM
We know almost for a fact that Yogg-Saron is in the unnamed raid in 3.2. Therefore, I think
MASSIVE SPOILERS
that a corrupted Thorim will be the final boss. After he was taken to Ulduar, who's to say Loken didn't pass his corruption on before his death? Maybe all the watchers (and, not to nitpick, but I THINK the term might have been Keepers) will be bosses in one form or another.
Chillaxe Jan 1st 2009 9:00PM
"you then have to spend a lot of time thrusting, blowing and polishing in order to get the Sons to really like you"
just like highschool!
Jason Jan 1st 2009 9:00PM
"The entire time I was working on these quests, I half expected King Jokkum to ask me if I liked gladiator movies."
^ Win!
justlikehoneybaby Jan 2nd 2009 1:28AM
Creteus is an Alliance quest giver, and only gives out the quests after a chain you may have skipped over (I know I did with my two Alliance toons.)
zokrates Jan 2nd 2009 1:41AM
Of note: due to a linguistic confusion with a separate deity, Logi, the Norse god Loki, on which Loken is based, is traditionally seen as a fire god, and in league with Surtr and the fire giants from Muspelheim. If Blizzard is following this Norse mythology, the fire giants may well be Loken's servants.