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1-02-2009 @ 8:07AM
I've been in groups where we've wiped more than 10, 12 times...I don't mind, nobody was getting frustrated, it was just a bit of funI don't like how people take these things so seriously, and after the fifth wipe they are like "OMG I CANT HANDLE IT ANYMORE, MY REPAIR BILLS WILL BE THROUGH THE ROOF!!"If you take virtual money that seriously then you need to get out more
1-02-2009 @ 9:57AM
I would go nuts after that many wipes. I go to instances to get what I'm there for and then leave.I'm well-prepared and expect the same from other people, and if we wipe more than, say, 3 times on the same boss, I'm usually on my way out.It's not because I care about the bills, I just don't want to waste hours wiping on something that should take no more than an hour.
1-02-2009 @ 10:08AM
The only way I would have the patience to make it through 10 wipes on the same boss is if we were making progress and nearly killed it.When I PUG, I usually bail if we wipe five times on the same encounter and its obvious that no one is improving or that the people in the group are unable to learn from prior mistakes.There's only so many times I can tell someone to do something differently and then watch them fail. The end of SL was like this in BC, either you were able to move when needed and avoid bombing the rest of your party or you weren't.
1-02-2009 @ 10:16AM
I have to respectfully disagree.If certain people can get through an instance after a dozen wipes and still manage to have fun, much less not pull all of their hair out, more power to them.The rest of us, however, like to eventually conquer an instance and not blow our entire evening doing graveyard runs.When I'm in a failing pug, I stay or leave depending on why the group is failing. A couple weeks ago I tried running Nexus on my mage, and on every pull the tank kept tanking the mob marked for sheep while skull, X, and an unmarked mob killed the rest of our group. When I finally did speak up (and I was polite), I was told to "relax." That's when I said "good luck and goodbye," and ported out of there.Not every situation is like that, of course. Sometimes, a group is banging their head against an instance because of a difficult strat, lack of gear, and/or the group composition is bad for the instance (MGT was hell if you didn't have at least 2 reliable CC). In those situations I try to tough it out as long as possible, but sometimes you just have to count your losses and come back with better gear or a different class combination.
1-02-2009 @ 1:27PM
We seriously had somebody leave in the middle of Kara because they apparently couldn't afford the repair bills. Oh, but that's not the entire story. We had wiped 4 times before, once we had a 1% wipe on Illhoof in which the Mage in the group insisted it was the two Warlocks' falt. As the raid lead, I told her it wasn't anybody's falt, it was just bad luck to wipe on 1%. She got pissed off I wasn't taking her advice about the Warlocks and started to give me the silent treatment. We got to Shade of Aran and one of our healers just bit it. The mage then stated in party chat "Sorry guys, I can't afford another wipe." and then dropped group in the middle of the battle while the rest of us continued to fight. I was pissed. Our GL kicked her afterwards for this because she saw no wrong in abandoning her guildies and her raid members. As we were in the middle of doing Shade again after the gkick, she hopped into our vent channel and started screaming again. Fun times.
1-02-2009 @ 1:38PM
I agree with Jonny Dale. I will stay in an instance as long as it takes to get it done so long as there is not a clear reason why we are wiping.I remember my first run through Nexus. I think we wiped on every boss at least once (and usually more), and we even wiped on trash mobs a couple of times. Do we suck at instances? Yes. Are we the kind of people whom raiding guilds want to have if they need someone to fill a spot? Probably not. But none of us got frustrated and we eventually made it through the whole thing. I got new boots and a new belt I believe, and it was fun. We may not have made it if Nexus had not been a brand new instance that none of us had done, but it still would have been fun for me.Although I wear plate gear, I never worry about repair bills. The rewards from getting through the instance and completing those quests or getting that loot or getting that achievement always outweigh the repair cost in MY mind, and I can just sell a stack of Saronite and the bill is taken care of.It drives me crazy when people leave without saying anything. Just the other day I was tanking heroic Violet Hold. Everyone else in the PUG was from a fairly new raiding guild on our server. We ended up with the purple ethereal boss, who is very hard on heroic. The leader of the group explained the tactic for killing the boss, which involves kiting him away from two orbs that he spawns. We ended up getting trapped on the upper level of the Hold with an orb on either side of us. I tanked us away from the closest orb, but then he yelled "TAKING WRONG WAY!!!" so I took his advice and tanked us straight into the other orb and we wiped. Everyone left. I know that it is Violet Hold and people don't want to do the whole thing over again, but I would have been willing to stay longer than we did.
1-02-2009 @ 6:35PM
I have to agree. I don't mind wiping myself, tbh. Repair bills mean nothing to me, it's not that hard to get money on WoW and if losing virtual gold on a video game is my biggest problem then I have problems.
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