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1-05-2009 @ 12:28AM
Here's a thought for you, David; though you're welcome not to use it, I just thought it might make interesting post fodder.I see a lot of RPers, here and elsewhere, that talk about being "spies." I've seen from the altogether far-too-common "High Elf pretending to be a blood elf" to "Demonic Eredar pretending to be a Draenei," and, of course, "minion of the Lich King just pretending to be a rebelled Death Knight while actually doing his dirty work."Is there ever a way to play these well? I don't know about you, but every time I see someone talk about playing one of these, I roll my eyes. It's so overdone that it's honestly edging on dull and boring. You can't throw a brick on some servers without hitting one of them. There's got to be some way to do it right. Or maybe there's not, and it just shouldn't be done at all. It's just honestly one of those roles that I get annoyed at whenever I see it brought up -- possibly because I don't think it feasible that these characters could convincingly get by under their front. Am I wrong? Is there actually a good side to this? Am I just being a jerk?Love the column, btw. Not a regular roleplayer in WOW, but I really enjoy your look into things and how you relate the lore to races and classes.
1-05-2009 @ 1:38AM
My personal rule is: if you play a spy, be prepared for the consequences. You can tell if someone is just trying to 'escape the rules' by taking up an undercover rule if they weasel out of the more unpleasant sides of it (being discovered, betraying friends, having to keep up the lie at all times etc.) at every opportunity. Of course, some characters just never get into such situations because of the way others play with them, then it may be a bit harder to tell how 'earnest' they are about their role.
1-05-2009 @ 1:48AM
clearly they're not good spies if everyone knows they're spies.
1-05-2009 @ 4:20AM
What is they are a Blood Elf ( or family of Blood Elves) who believe in everything the Blood Elves stand for, but simply didn't partake of Fel Magic (for example, mine turned to the Shadow for power instead). In that case their eyes would be blue, rather than green. Is that plausible? (Well, it is plausible, but I mean, is it good material for RPing?)
1-05-2009 @ 6:08AM
I laugh at "spy concepts" almost as hard as I laugh at "amnesia concepts". Some things are just overdone and should stay in the realm of soap operas, if you ask me. Not that I'm under any impression that my opinion matters, just... agreeing with you about those.Or there are those people who are such huge fanboys of other movies/comics/anime/media that they try to import characters into their new RP forum of choice. I used to help run a Star Trek RP, and if I had a nickle for every time-travelled Goku Super-Saiyan crap that tried to join us... Ugh.I think the column would do well to include some of these overdone RP stereotypes. :) "What not to do" perhaps? And an "if you really must..." under each section detailing how a person might do it right if they really insisted? It's a good idea.
1-05-2009 @ 7:34AM
About blood elf eyes - it does not matter if they do tap into fel magic or not, they still have green eyes. I'd suggest you to walk around Silvermoon and notice those giant green crystals with angry eyes. Those are trapped demons, their power is being transferred into the elves that live there. This means that even an elf with barely any magic absorbtion powers will obtain the green eye sideeffect. It is like working in a nuclear plant - you may not be touching the stuff, but you still get a dose of radiation.
1-05-2009 @ 11:09AM
Thanks for your comment :) Actually, there are some examples of spies already in the game as enemies involved in certain quests here and there. The entire draenei starting zone culminates in a quest... (spoiler warning if you haven't done this! Stop reading!) ... to kill an eredar posing as a normal draenei. I'm sure there are all sorts of spies running about doing nasty things in Azeroth, whether for the demons, the Scourge, the Alliance, Horde, or whatever.The problem with trying to play a spy character is that there's absolutely no actual spying to do. You'll never find a proper Scourge boss fellow that your death knight can report to, for example. It'll always be something that your character has to just keep in the background. You'll never be able to actually betray your friends and bring the literal wrath of the Lich King down on their puny, pathetic bodies! (muahaha) The absolute worst you can do is tell your friends that you're actually a spy for the Scourge, whereupon they really ought to kick you out of their guild. It's a fun gimmick that works in lots of movies (it's good enough to be an entire genre of film and fiction, actually), but in WoW it's just really hard to pull off. You end up with a character who might as well *not* be a spy because he or she is effectively out of a job -- bit of a slump in the spy business, if you know what I mean. It's all just talk.Being a spy for the opposite PvP faction could work, I suppose, in that there are ways to roleplay that you are bringing the other faction in to beat down on your guildmates -- but the problem is that once you show your true colors and the Alliance comes-a-stormin' through Silvermoon City, you'll find yourself in the awkward position of an outcast who's not actually cast out. According to your own story and your guild, you should be shot on sight by any members of the Horde, but whenever you get close, they resolutely refuse to kill you. They even offer you their wares, bank your items, and buy your useless junk. The only way to go on from there is to find some other guild to pick on, which gets lame if people have heard of you already. That, or give up the spy business and ask for forgiveness, I guess. But that's kind of a anti-climactic too.WoW is the game that never ends. Whatever character concept a person chooses, it needs to be something sustainable, which can fit with all the activities you're going to want to continue for as long as you play the game.
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