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1-05-2009 @ 8:15PM
Further proof that China is ridiculous and not to be taken seriously at any time.
1-05-2009 @ 8:22PM
Replace "panda" with "nipple" and you have a fair idea of the cultural *cough* issue. Like the Janet Jackson nipple incident. The grand majority's reaction was, "It's a nipple, so what?" A small minority went, "oooh, nipple!" And a very small, but oh so vocal minority were screeching, "ZOMG nipple! Moral decay! Ban! Censor! Think of the children!"Yes, it's ridiculous.
1-05-2009 @ 9:39PM
@Muse:That does not logically follow. Pandaren are not a moral issue, so the outcry over the pandaren does not come anywhere near the issue of nudity on public TV as regards the Jackson incident.And before the ad hominems come out, whichever side you take on the issue of nudity on TV is irrelevant to this. The analogy fails because it involves two entirely unrelated issues.
1-05-2009 @ 9:53PM
@Amaxe The two are extremely similar, since morals and morality flow from the cultural norms of the society. A nipple on TV is a morality issue in America because of American cultural values, not the other way around.Since the Chinese government links the Panda to Chinese culture, it may very well be a moral issue for them. So Muse's analogy is perfectly apt.
1-05-2009 @ 10:06PM
Actually no. Not to derail the thread, but what happens to some sort of animal mascot is different than the violation of a culture's moral taboos. Nudity on TV is an issue because it reflects the traditional American moral views or a rejection of them (those who were offended vs those who were not).The Pandaren issue is an issue created by the Chinese government. The Chinese government are not adverse to having pandas portrayed at all (Ranma 1/2 aired in China, sans nudity for example and was popular in part because of Genma Saotome [person who turns into a panda]).Really the two things are entirely different.
1-05-2009 @ 11:44PM
I think your wrong Axeman. Just because you identify with animal icons as a sporting mascot, doesn't mean another culture won't see them as being an important symbol for their country.There is nothing inherently wrong with a nipple being seen on TV, however its taboo in the American culture, so it becomes a morality issue to them. Personally, I wouldn't think a nipple on TV is a morality issue, as it doesn't offend my morals. Likewise, the use of an animal that the Chinese seem to base a lot of their national identity on in a video game could be seen as being incredibly tasteless or even an insult. In the same vein, I could see it being made an issue by a small group of people if they made a race that looked like American bald eagles (a race like that would be ridiculously lame).It also happens the Chinese government exerts a lot more control over their public than the American public.
1-06-2009 @ 4:50AM
Well, there are 3 times more people in China than in US. Why should anyone care about US much again?
1-06-2009 @ 7:42AM
A better comparison of the relationship would be:People killing Pandas evokes a similar reaction as People burning an American flag.It is a national identity thing. It is not the same as a sports mascot, in the same way the American flag is not equivalent to a sports mascot.A small, very vocal minority (who in this case have the full weight of the government behind them) became upset.Which is why the original Panda imagery being dressed in Japanese costume created such an outcry. China and Japan do not like each other much.
1-06-2009 @ 10:56AM
True. The Chinese have done a great job keeping the RL Pandas close to extinction
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