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1-09-2009 @ 11:24AM
I don't think I could get anything done on a PVP realm.
1-09-2009 @ 1:36PM
That's the initial reasoning that I had when I started playing WoW. I started on a PvE server and leveled two to 70 there, but then I saw some world PvP videos... Since then I've rerolled onto a low/medium pop PvP server, Kalecgos, and I've liked the occasional surprise of world PvP. Sure, there are times when it would be nice to not be ganked while leveling a toon but once you reach cap it adds a little more spice to the game. Mostly, because until cap you're a sitting duck, but once you reach 80 the chances for retribution make it exciting. :)
1-09-2009 @ 2:10PM
The way I figure it, an important part of an MMORPG is the "RPG" part of the game... You roll Alliance, you play the ROLE of a hated enemy of the horde, you roll Horde, you play the ROLE of an enemy of the alliance... If you can stroll past your hated enemy, wave, and just keep on picking flowers, then where did the "Role-playing" go? If you can stroll through contested territory without any inkling of anxiety or fear, then what's the purpose of contested territory? If you feel no difference between your "homeland," and a dangerous, foreign land, then I think that the RPG element is gone.
1-09-2009 @ 2:39PM
Sure you can get stuff done on a PvP realm. I think they just got a bad rep a while ago. First, you can turn off PvP in your home territory, so there's no ganking in the homeland. Personally, I flag everyone... even my bank alts... at level 1. I just think that's fair.Second, most high level characters don't really care to spend their time camping you, unless you started something first. Remember, as much as you might hate Death Knights, those players all have mains on the same realm (right now). Best to leave them alone unless you want some action.Besides, how many times can you run the same quests without getting bored? Why not introduce a little chaos into the mix?
1-09-2009 @ 3:13PM
that's why you'll always be a carebear
1-09-2009 @ 2:55PM
"You roll Alliance, you play the ROLE of a hated enemy of the horde, you roll Horde, you play the ROLE of an enemy of the alliance...If you can stroll past your hated enemy, wave, and just keep on picking flowers, then where did the Role-playing' go? "-----I hear this one all the time from people who don't actually get the lore. There -is- a peace treaty. It's tenuous, which is the lore reason for us not being able to do things like talk to each other, and there's the occasional skirmish (quite well acted-out through quests). But there's a peace treaty. Jaina let her own father die at the hands of the Horde to preserve it. Our two factions have been working together against the Burning Legion and the Lich King for years now.You know what -isn't- RP? Going along my merry way riding through somewhere to try to turn in a quest, getting stun-locked out of nowhere, and getting teabagged by a rogue.You keep roleplaying your teabag-laden war. I'll keep roleplaying my lore-backed peace treaty. :)
1-09-2009 @ 3:39PM
@AyaJulia:That's one thing that bugs me about world PvP. I don't want to talk in Common all the time, but I've played RPG's long enough to believe that my characters should have a backstory, and should behave consistently with their race, class, and motivations. My first character was a Dwarven warrior, and when I think of dwarves, the first profession that I thought of was Mining, so I made him a Miner. My druid and shaman are Skinner/Herbalists, because it makes sense to me that those classes should live off of the land.However, in regards to random PvP, Blizzard is, as Don Vito might say, asking me to kill a man I do not know. If I'm going to do that, I'll need a valid reason, and WoW doesn't seem to have one. The Alliance is not at war with the Horde. In fact, both are tenuously aligned together against the Legion. They cause occasional border skirmishes and stolen supply shipments, but nothing that justifies my randomly killing an Orc who's just going about his business in Zangarmarsh and not threatening me in any meaningful way.If anything, such unprovoked attacks would simply aggravate the current tensions and possibly throw Azeroth into another war. As I recall from the Caverns of Time storyline, cooperation between the Allies and Horde was the only reason the Burning Legion couldn't take Azeroth; why would I want to start another war at a time like this, when the Scourge is rebuilding its armies?Random PvP is much more justifiable in Warhammer, where the bad guys truly are evil, and the sides are actually at war with each other.
1-09-2009 @ 4:03PM
On the whole if you not at war you not roleplaying thing I agree AyaJulia mostly but I think alot of people miss the point of RP. I could hate the horde and want them dead cause the stole 5 gold off me at the bar in tanaris or they killed my dog. Or I could simply be a agent of evil that has no greater joy than cause suffering and for the moment is "allied" to one side out of convienence. I play a druid and my RP point of view is I am ok with the Taurens in general but will kill them if forced to not fond of the the undead at all orcs are alright but I don't really trust trolls I think the are decieving the Orcs for a place to stay cause they got their butts kicked by some other trolls. On my rouge I played more a willy craftly type that likes to screw with people not neccessarily camp them but I might through a distract when they were near death just to let them know I could kill them. And generally like to see other people starting unfair fights and leveling the playing field.Really the King of stormwind would most Certainly agree with Shoal while Jaina Proudmoore would side with AyaJulia . So even in game lore is shows this as a fragile alliance and that is due to the fact there are still people in both factions that want the other side dead but there are peace keeper that keep it from happening.
1-09-2009 @ 5:13PM
@Konchu:"On the whole if you [are] not at war you [are] not roleplaying"I'd disagree that we need to be "at war," because there has been no declaration of war. However, I can and will defend my faction's cities and camps if they're under attack. Even if I'm level 30 and Ironforge is swarming with 80's, I'll go /pvp and contribute whatever I can before somebody one-shots me, because that's what a soldier does. I claim Spirit Towers and fight for control of Wintergrasp, because that's part of my service to the Alliance. However, I still don't see any reason to attack somebody who poses no threat to me, particularly lowbies and AFK's.
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