WoW Rookie: Mind your manners part 2
by Lisa Poisso 
Jan 21st 2009 at 7:30PM
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Hey, I needed that! Suddenly, a level 70 mage roars through the area, AoEing every pig he sees, rounding them all up in a pile so he can level up his skinning. A few seconds later, I'm left with nothing to farm. |
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Strangling Stranglethorn fishing tourney contestants The weekly fishing contest seems to be a no-holds-barred match, with people fishing wherever they can, whether or not you claimed the spot first. |
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Some disenchanted evening Insider Trader takes a look at an issue that's left many an enchanter completely scratching his head: who disenchants items nobody needs during an instance run – and who gets to keep the results? |
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Gatherers behaving badly It's worth noting right off the bat that attitudes about farming etiquette vary from PvE to PvP servers, and even from server to server on the same server types. |
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Tipping and social networking By nature, tipping is a controversial topic, even in a virtual world. There are only loosely defined guidelines, the gesture is optional (or is it?), and it is all about communicating and exchanging with politeness and respect. |
WoW Rookie feeds you the basics to get you off to a good start in the World of Warcraft. Find more tools you can use in the WoW Insider Directory and WoW Insider Leveling Guides.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
bradv10 Jan 21st 2009 7:54PM
to be honest, this shouldn't be isolated to rookies. There are plenty of veterans out there that could do well by reading over this guide every now and then.
leprakahn Jan 21st 2009 8:02PM
You probably won't understand this, but for the picture at the top of this article you should have had a shot of Almost Live's Billy Quan.
Keyra Jan 21st 2009 8:20PM
I can't count the number of times that I have been just running around, minding my own business when suddenly, POW! A guild charter pops up in my face, or someone asks me to join a group, or even still...the worst of the lot...DUEL ME!!!
Would it hurt to first ask?
Apparently so, for not a whole lot of people do this. They just throw it in your face, interrupting what you would otherwise be doing in the game.
It only takes a couple of seconds. "/w Hi, would you like to duel?" "/w Hi there! Would you like to sign my guild charter?" (even better...) "I'll pay you 1g..." or "/w Are you on [insert quest here]? Do you want to do this as a group?"
This ensures that A) you would receive a positive response from said person - whether that response is "No, thank you" or "Sure, why not?" - it's still positive...and B) you may actually wind up on said person's friends list for further questing/journeying/dueling/whatever.
A lot of players, myself included, use add-ons that automatically reject guild requests, duel requests and group requests. Why? Because we don't want to be bothered by the aforementioned random "in your face" things like this. We're online to play the game, and we might not want to take the time away from heading to the next quest objective to see whether you're more powerful or we are under that dropped-down dueling flag. For a lot of us, we don't really care whether you can beat us or we can beat you. It's pointless beyond the initial achievement, and for some people, even the achievement itself is pointless.
And what if we're not in a guild? Do we really want to sign your charter? Well, if you ask, we might...but if we just happen by and you throw the charter in our face? Chances are, we're not going to sign. If you do it again? Chances are, you're going on our "ignore" list.
Beyond these things, there is the simple act of courtesy. "Hey, sorry about snagging that [whatever] - but it dropped [this loot] and I can't use it. Do you want it?" I've done this on more than one occasion. Result? "No, thank you, but it was great of you for asking!" /friend me :-)
A little politeness goes a long way. Perhaps people who post in WoW Insider might want to consider this?
Yeah, right. But I can hope...
Berg Jan 21st 2009 8:23PM
Great article and links. I just wish it had been here when I started! I also agree with bradv10. Even high level players can make some noob mistakes. Best to read just to be safe.
Michael Jan 21st 2009 9:09PM
If a bunch of us are standing round waiting for a named mob to spawn, I don't mind getting a group invite "out of the blue". It's obvious why the invite has been made, and it's equally obvious that it's in everyone's interests.
I have made such invites myself.
Keyra Jan 21st 2009 11:15PM
In a situation like what you've described, then an "out of the blue" invite is acceptable, in my view. What I was referring to is when you're heading to an area - let's use a low-level example. You are in Southshore and heading out to take care of the ogres for the books. Before you even start out, someone throws a group request in your face. Do they even know what quest you're on? Is it the same quest? This is what I find to be annoying, but maybe that's just me. Now if it's something quite plain as to what the quest may be and you get the group invite, then I'm all for it! But if it's anyone's guess and you just happen to be a few levels higher than they are, well...........
Kanuris Jan 21st 2009 10:24PM
Number 1 rule when being a rookie and asking for help on something. Be polite and avoid butchering your grammar. It does wonders and will generally get your question answered.
Daniel Jan 21st 2009 10:40PM
Overall, I agree with most of the advice contained in these articles. But I disagree on two points.
Lurting. This is situational and should be discussed by the group in advance. Lurting may be of necessary when time is of the essence for the group. I don't agree that there is an absolute rule that its always bad manners.
Tipping. yes, I'm going to go here. I think tipping in the game is always necessary. Even if its only 25 silver. Even if its your RL partner doing the deed. And I say this as someone who mostly does tipping and almost never gets tipped (because my professions are not service professions). I think a lot of the excuses for not tipping are just BS. If people do the work, they should get paid.
Keyra Jan 21st 2009 11:10PM
Tipping...yes! I feel that if you are asking someone to do something for you, even if you are using your own mats, the least that you could do is pay them for the kindness that they have shown in agreeing to do this for you.
Back some time ago, I had this notion of wanting a "glowy sword" (okay, so that's girly of me...but I'm a girl, so there!) and I first found out what mats would be needed, asking if someone could link the enchantment to me. Then I went to the AH and got the mats. Next, I posted on trade that I was looking for an enchanter to do this for me.
I was in Stormwind. He was in Shat. He ported over and did the enchantment for me. I asked what would be a good tip for this as I didn't know. He said, "Oh, whatever you feel is good." I gave him 5g. He was more than satisfied (probably expecting only about 1 or 2 g at most). Then I remembered his porting over from Shat and coming to SW just to do this. So I opened the trade window again and gave him another 5. He said it wasn't necessary. I said, "Maybe, but you went out of your way for me just so I could have this." He took the 5g. He's still on my friends list :-)
Keyra Jan 21st 2009 11:53PM
I've never disabled my tips when the game is loading. So, here's one to share:
Remember this one?
Tip: Being polite while in a group with others will get you invited back!
dreadpiraterose Jan 22nd 2009 7:00AM
So much of this boils down to just being a decent and polite human being. It's amazing how often that seems to elude people. As a mage, people just throw group invites my way all the time or open trade windows with a few gold for a port without saying a word. I've gotten to the point where I just ignore them, or pretend to be AFK. If you want a port, have some manners and ask first.
Kelly
http://conventionfans.today.com
Evi Jan 22nd 2009 11:48AM
Alas, it's easy to be rude on the internet, where no one can see your face.
LytLady Jan 26th 2009 3:39PM
Ok - I have to vent! I get the learning curve.. Shoot! I am still on one.... I get the different intensities in which people play. I even get the invite/trade rudeness... I even accept the stubborness of those that don't accept adivice... But I have never been soo upset about something in this game until the other night.
I was PUG'd for Black Morass with members from 2 different guilds besides mine. For about a month, I have been wanting to do BM to get the Kara key (yeah I know.. I've done Kara many times, but I still want that key) & the rep. I went in all excited and over geared. I shared a couple scrolls w/ those that were low on the gear and level chain. We were going great.. The healer died once because he/she didn't watch her aggro, then wouldn't stop building it and ran away. Aurgh! But all in all, we were doing great. Everyone seemed to know what they needed to do. We get to the last group of mobs/boss, and the Mage announces "Done - Got Rep". Suddenly the party all hearthed out & disbanded. I wsp the tank only to find out that they had no intention of finishing... It was only to build the Mage's rep to exaulted..... But we were almost done!!! Couldn't we have finished. The tank said he would have, but the others needed to go do Steamvaults!!!! I have put the others on my list not to party with. I guess I learned my lesson. To this date, I am still trying to finish BM to get my Kara key.
valkry Jan 22nd 2009 8:02PM
I'm sorry, but I live in Australia and WE DO NOT TIP people to do their job. I refuse to tip. But I will pay for labour.
What I hate is when you get something crafted up and they won't ask for a hiring price, so you put up an amount and then they get angry with you because it's too little. I'm not totally sure what the going rate is, and if you aren't going to say anything, you are getting what you are getting.