Breakfast topic: Of Newbies and n00bs
by Amanda Dean 
Jan 22nd 2009 at 8:00AM
Amazingly enough, there are still many new players coming into the game that need some tutoring. I consider myself to be downright patient. If someone asks for help or advice, I'm there. If I don't have the answer, I point them to one of the many WoW resources that will assist them. At one point in time we were all rookies, and many of us still have many nuances of the game to pick up. I love to watch people learn and grow.Bear in mind that WoW has a variable learning curve based on familiarity with MMORPGs, time spent playing, coaches, and aptitude. There comes a time though, when folks should be pretty self-sufficient. The argument "I'm new" no longer holds water. For example, it goes without saying that hunters should always check their ammo supplies before going into instances and in general, clothies should let the tank pull.
Clearly by the time someone zones into a raid their rookie mistakes should be behind them. I've often heard level 40 as a cut off for newbiedom. Personally I expect someone to generally know the rules of the road by the time they're doing Outland instances, even Death Knights. Do you have a general rule for when you expect competence? In essence, when do you go from newbie to n00b?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 6)
Okabe Jan 22nd 2009 8:05AM
Posted 3 minutes ago?
Honestly, what time do you guys eat breaksfast at?
Bulk Jan 22nd 2009 8:11AM
Clearly you're new to the concept of time zones. Look them up sometime.
Okabe Jan 22nd 2009 8:13AM
Clearly you are under the false presumption that any time zone other than my own matters.
You are mistaken, sir!
Also it is extremely early in the morning. Forgive me. ;_;
Azhariel Jan 22nd 2009 9:18AM
C'mon, the guy didn't even said "First!". IMO he deserve at least a cookie, at most a (delicious) cake for that.
As for the topic, I believe n00biness is a genetic, unremovable disease. N00bs are n00bs, they'll always wipe your party/raid, they'll always think their failspec is the best, beg for gold, etc.
But newbies are pretty cool guys, they just haven't learned about some stuff yet, something that can be quickly fixed as most newbies are -willing- to learn.
skrimyr Jan 27th 2009 9:16AM
okabe...don't listen to azhariel
the cake is a lie!
Dominika Jan 22nd 2009 8:09AM
A newbie is someone who doesn't know the game.
A n00b is someone who doesn't, but thinks they do.
Darthregis Jan 22nd 2009 9:18AM
HA!
Well put! :)
Nic Lake Jan 22nd 2009 9:29AM
I second this
lewisd35 Jan 22nd 2009 10:37AM
Agreed with the following addition:
Noob: "Someone who isn't willing to listen or learn from others"
oldwisemonk Jan 22nd 2009 12:46PM
I, too, have to put my stamp of approval on this.
To Amanda: The lvl 40 thing makes sense in theory, but so many people get to lvl 60 now with RaF and still have no idea what the basics are. Back in the day people would say the game STARTS at lvl 60 – they weren't kidding.
Deadly. Off. Topic. Jan 22nd 2009 1:47PM
Lol, Noob. Sounds like my boss.
Axolotl Jan 22nd 2009 8:07AM
You go from newbie to noob at the point where only the levelranges of zones are your guideline in stead of the quests you have in your questlog ... Amagod I can go to Northrend at 68 !!! Doesn't mean you should ... noob
MM Jan 22nd 2009 8:11AM
Going to Northrend at 68 is a great idea though.
The quests are easy starting out, and give so much experience you could probably make 70 in two or three hours.
Hyacin Jan 22nd 2009 8:20AM
Just like going to Outland at 58 is the smartest thing you can do. The MOBs give something like 100% more XP, as do the quests ... and you can start getting quests in Outland *at* 58 ... I'd presume the same is true about Northrend and 68. While entirely unfair, a level 58 quest in Azeroth does not give anywhere near as much XP or gold as a level 58 quest in Outland. On every one of my toons, as soon as I hit 58 (and I'm sure I'll start doing the same at 68 now) I dump everything but class-quests from my quest log and move on to the next area.
Mjolnr Jan 22nd 2009 9:07AM
Hahahahaha and you call them noobs?
You go to outland at 58 and northrend at 68.
Why?
Because the mobs give more xp, the quests give more xp and the starting zones are about the same difficulty as the ending zones in your previous lvl range.
Mike Jan 22nd 2009 9:10AM
The OP is right. Save all the quest XP you can get for 60-70 (70-80) because running out of quest is the biggest annoyance ever.
Dominika Jan 22nd 2009 9:36AM
There's no possible way you can run out of quests before you hit 80 in Northrend. Not in the slightest.
I did all the quests in the Fjord, then did all the quests in Dragonblight, then did all the quests in Grizzly Hills, then did half the quests in Zul'Drak, during which I hit 77, got my flying mount, and went and did quests in Icecrown. I literally went from 77-80 just in Icecrown. That left 3 1/2 zones filled with quests that I didn't do.
Palm Jan 22nd 2009 9:40AM
You cant handle the quests in northrend at level 68!? LTP noob. =P
Graham Jan 22nd 2009 9:53AM
Ok, I just have to reply to this. Going to Northrend at 68 is much better than staying in Outland. There is NO WAY you will run out of quests because there are TWO starting zones filled with them, and you will DRAMATICALLY cut time off of your rise to 70, and therefore your rise to 80 as well.
Noobs quest in Netherstorm and Shadowmoon.
Ilnara Jan 22nd 2009 1:10PM
Gratz, you are in fact, the very definition of a noob.
amagawd, I can make 10k exp on outlands quests or 21k on Northrend quests...
You do the math.