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1-22-2009 @ 9:35AM
Um. You knew Achievements were being added to the game. You should have became a Brew of the Month member during Brewfest anyway. The Violet-Proto Drake is a reward for people who do the World Events, not for people who 'didn't know about what they had to do to get the Violet-Proto Drake'... Comeon. I don't have any sympathy for any of you that don't have the Brewfest stuff done. QQ.@Neodarkmatter ... If you read the 2nd paragraph, Mike mentions you don't need it for the VPD. L2R.
1-22-2009 @ 9:42AM
I knew it was being added and got the brew of the month subscription, but the first brew isn't being counted as I drank it before the achievements came out. So I may just be screwed. :(
1-22-2009 @ 9:44AM
Actually, by your theory, the drake is a reward for people who researched achievements before they were implemented. You had to KNOW about the brewfest acheivement BEFORE they implemented them in order to get the drake in a year's time. The drake is a 'two-year' award for people who do the world events, it's a 'one-year' award for people who were either lucky enough to get the BOTM club because of dumb luck or for people who researched the achievements before they were implemented.
1-22-2009 @ 9:46AM
@Cela ... And there was a Blue post about the Brew of the Month going from Sept -> Sept (as far as drinks go)... You still have to wait until Brewfest rolls around again to finish the other things. Even if they change it and don't give out another Sept Brew, do the Brew of the Month and get Sept again. Not that tough. I agree that it's a little much (and 3 years of Children's Week would have reward die-hard players), but I don't think things like this should be easy.
1-22-2009 @ 10:26AM
@Arkangell ... My point was simply that you didn't have to know about the achievement to do things during Brewfest. You could have done all of the quests, hit BRD for the daily kill, gotten the Brew of the Month, and some pieces of clothes, and still not known about the achievement. I really love people who find it necessary to dissect everything in a comment to a post. 'By my theory,' people should just not flip out and QQ about things that should come naturally. The achievements I appreciate the most are the ones that I don't know I'm going to get.
1-22-2009 @ 10:51AM
Gridneo, what it essentially boils down to is this:Achievements are supposed to reward effort (or in rare cases, luck). Waiting 30 days, opening your mail, and doing that again 11 more times is not effort. It's just artificially drawing out an achievement. If the reward for waiting around was simply a title or something like that, it wouldn't be a big deal. But it's not, it's a 310% speed mount, which can have a significant impact on gameplay. The only other ways to get a 310% mount at this point are to be extraordinarily good at PvP, be in a top raiding guild, or farm TK every week and hope to get lucky. Meaning that a 310% speed mount is otherwise inaccessible to 90% of the player base.For Blizzard to reward a portion of that 90% for knowing certain information ahead of time, while punishing those that didn't, is just plain bad design. I personally was taking a break from the game during the last Brewfest as I was burnt out from lack of content. I'm planning on having the Glory of the Hero achievements done by the time the next Brewfest rolls around anyway, but in case I don't, I don't want to be forced to stand around for a year (literally) while everybody else is zipping around on their new proto-drakes.
1-22-2009 @ 11:19AM
The main problem with Brew of the Year?It's the ONLY achievement required for the Violet Proto-Drake that cannot be done within the space of the actual holiday. Every single other achievement that is required can be done while the holiday is on... but Brew of the Year forces you to do it over an 11 month time span. Which, on its own would be fine, but when combined with the fact that you can only start the achievement on Brewfest (by getting the membership), there's a problem.What's the problem? Because you have to start the achievement during Brewfest and then wait 11 months, MISSING BREWFEST SETS A PLAYER BACK FURTHER THAN MISSING EVERY OTHER HOLIDAY COMBINED. If you miss one holiday, you have to wait until it comes around again. If you miss Brewfest, you have to wait until it comes around again, and then a further 11 months.Basically, lets say there are two players, Adam and Bob (A and B). Adam and Bob are both playing the game when Brewfest 09 rolls around, and haven't done any of the holiday achievements. Adam completes as much of Brewfest as possible and gets his BotY membership, but Bob is called overseas for work and misses it. Adam then stops playing WoW until Brewfest '10, whereas Bob partakes in every other holiday he can, completing all the achievements. Brewfest '10 rolls around, and Adam doesn't need to do it - but Bob does, and he completes everything but BotY - now he's got his membership and is just waiting 11 months to get his Violet Proto-drake. Adam's back into WoW, and does every other holiday for the '10 to '11 period.Adam ends up getting his Proto-drake at the Midsummer Fire Festival (late July '11 I believe) because he had already completed the only long-term achievement - BotY. On the other hand, Bob has to wait until September '11, purely because he missed the most important holiday - Brewfest. Never mind that that was the only holiday he missed in his first year of 'holidaying', because it was Brewfest he gets punished more than Adam.Brewfest should not be more important than all the other holidays combined. Either every holiday needs an 11 month achievement (I do NOT recommend this), or the Brewfest meta-achievement needs to be entirely completable within one Brewfest period.The name of the game is consistency, and Brewfest is inconsistent with the rest of the holidays.
1-22-2009 @ 12:20PM
They should change it so you only have to buy a Brew of the Month membership, or drop it from the meta-achievement. It's just ridiculous; no other holiday event requires you to keep playing the game for a year AFTER the event in order to get the meta-achievement. If Veteran Nanny was part of the Children's Week meta-achievement, you might have a leg to stand on.Also, does anyone have the "Down with the Dark Iron" achievement? I did "This One Time, When I Was Drunk" at least once a day on most of my characters, so it should be in my quest history, but none of my characters have that achievement. I've gotten partial credit for Flame Warden of Kalimdor and Flame Warden of Eastern Kingdoms for the Midsummer Festival, so it's not like they can't award them retroactively. It's no big deal (it's not like it's a hard quest to do) I'm just curious about the difference...As for the "you should have known" people, get a life. Running a 25-man raid should take research, diligence, and preparation; getting a holiday achievement should not. I'm willing to bet that most of you are just DYING, waiting for the day in September when you can show off your fancy Violet Drake epeen.
1-22-2009 @ 8:36PM
I didn't learn about Brew of the Year until after the acheivements dropped. I'm screwed out of getting that wonderful Proto Drake until 2010.:(
1-23-2009 @ 2:25AM
Cela:Have that same error too :/ i contacted a GM and he said that it was becaus the binary brew was going to come back in sept/okt. or something like that, so we should still be able to get it.. But even if we dont, its just a little wait til okt. and getting enough coins for another brew of the month membership
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