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by Alex Ziebart 
Jan 23rd 2009 at 9:00AM
This is quite possibly the most game altering change Blizzard has implemented in WoW thus far: Building a Basic Campfire no longer needs Simple Wood, only Flint and Tinder or a Gnomish Army Knife. This is right up there with stackable clams! Personally, my mind is blown.Okay, let's be serious, this is actually a fairly decent (and convenient) change. Is it absolutely needed? No, not at all, but how many of us carried around Simple Wood and Flint and Tinder at all times? Who took those things to raids with them? Very few people, if anybody at all. And I can recall tons of times that people have rushed to a raid just after getting home from work and had forgotten to cook up their consumables. These fires would've been legitimately useful right then, but the small annoyance of carrying stacks of Wood around made it pretty unlikely that anybody had them. Nowadays, I think just about everyone carries a Gnomish Army Knife (and they should if they don't), so this is actually very convenient! You don't need to carry anything extra at all.
My question is... what are we burning to make that fire now? Sure, if you're out in the wilderness you can just assume your character gathered some firewood, but you're not always in a position to do that! What if you're in the middle of Ulduar? Pretty hard to burn all of that stone, isn't it? Daniel Whitcomb suggested that his Death Knight will just summon a ghoul and light it aflame to cook his meal, but that seems a little macabre, even for him.
[Thanks for all of the tips, everyone!]
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Humor, Death Knight
Reader Comments (Page 3 of 6)
MechChef Jan 23rd 2009 12:51PM
Good use of the word endothermic.
peagle Jan 23rd 2009 9:25AM
Odd change, not sure I agree with your generalization "Very few people, if anybody at all". There's always a handful of people in the raid, in particular people who are "hardcore" chefs who always have campfire mats.
On a similar subject I just noticed yesterday arcane powder stacks to 100, which was an awesome change.
nbcaffeine Jan 23rd 2009 9:38AM
I don't know why everyone didn't carry wood and flint with them, it is not like you need 35 free bag slots in a raid.
Jodi Jan 23rd 2009 9:50AM
It stacks to 100?! Yay! Thats two free slots with one patch. I am loving 3.0.8!
Amaxe Jan 23rd 2009 11:09AM
nbcaffeine said...
I don't know why everyone didn't carry wood and flint with them, it is not like you need 35 free bag slots in a raid.
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Because Greys vendor, and at higher levels they vendor for gold. Carrying things you don't need is a waste compared to the money thing.
nbcaffeine Jan 23rd 2009 11:15AM
@Amaxe
I carry my entire 2nd set of gear, six stacks of food and pots, all my fun trinkets, HS, Army knife, bandages, and I still have way way too many empty bag slots. It's even less required now, there is so little trash in raids that you barely get any greys. Carrying things you don't need would be a waste, if you could fill up while raiding. I'd say paying for a 20 slot bag and not putting things that you could actually use in a raid would be a waste.
Dailey Jan 23rd 2009 11:27AM
Hardcore Chef's. lol Just because I got the title ptach day doesn't mean i'm uh hardcore. Dang I have been found out. Now where to put my stack of wood.
Skarlette Jan 23rd 2009 2:32PM
"On a similar subject I just noticed yesterday arcane powder stacks to 100, which was an awesome change."
IT DOES??????? OMG, that's fantastic! /cheer
Amaxe Jan 23rd 2009 3:22PM
@nbcaffeine
Miner, Jewelcrafter, farming cloth for my friend, farming relics for my guildmates, grinding gold off of endless mobs in ZD zone. It does add up. The more slots I have, the fewer times I need to go empty them.
I used to carry my PvP set in there as well until I learned how broken the system was for resilience.
Start of a day I have 65 slots free. End of the day, it can get pretty full
Fuseitana Jan 23rd 2009 9:28AM
Any change that gives me back a bag slot is not trivial.
Stormsurge Jan 23rd 2009 9:29AM
I was actually kinda disappointed about this change because I recently bought the Traveler's Tundra Mammoth and was using wood that I bought from the riding vendor to make fires everywhere.
poot1 Jan 23rd 2009 9:32AM
"what are we burning to make that fire now?" When you were a kid reading comic books did you also complain that Dr Doom wasn't really a doctor because he never went to medical school?
If anything has changed it's just that the number of items you'd need to cook in the field has returned to where it was before Wrath. You just need to carry Northern Spices now instead of wood.
I suspect that mostly what this will be used for is to make it easier for people to spell out obscene words on the ground with campires. Grats Blizzard, you have improved the game 100 fold!
Gemini Jan 23rd 2009 9:52AM
Considering there's now a 5-minute cooldown on the ability, not likely.
dotorion Jan 23rd 2009 9:35AM
Fantastic, I love my army knife even more now !
And I guess they assume you find little branches etc in the wild to light your fire :p
mnky Jan 23rd 2009 9:40AM
I've used campfires for about a year now. its nice atmosphere to drop down if your doing a bit of fishing for awhile. When your dungeon group needs to break for a few min if you put down a fire its inevitable that a hunter will feign death on top of it. now if only they would add a cooking recipe for smores that required a campfire to use and not stove / brazier, etc.
Kal Jan 23rd 2009 9:44AM
People ... make fires? For cooking?
I'm obsessed with WoW cooking. I have my Chef title. I haven't carried wood or flint and tinder since I hit about level five on my first character and realised that there are thousands of fires burning all over the place.
zappo Jan 23rd 2009 10:11AM
Even if I can't find a fire, I just buy flint and tinder from a vendor and make one one the spot. You lose something like 3 silver doing this. Really not worth the bag space to me. The gnomish army knife would also eat up another spot since I'm not going to give up my uber-skinning knife, so doubt this will actually change much for me.
Shade Jan 23rd 2009 9:43AM
Someone in my guild mentioned this last night. Sure enough - no wood required. I rejoiced in my new free bag slot, as I'm one of those weird 'carry around wood, never know when you'll need a fire' types.
Jodi Jan 23rd 2009 9:47AM
I carry wood around.. but Im a freak like that.. most of it is so I can cook anywhere since my computer sucks and I lag in about all of northrend.. finding a fire isnt always an option..
Speaking of cooking.. I think it would be fabulous if you guys mentioned that the cooking daily "Convention at the Ledgermain" now only requires 4 northren stews instead of the impossibly large 12 that it used it. My fiancé spent three days skipping it until he noticed that they reduced it. Just one of those undocumented changes that I, for one, wouldve liked to know about.. chilled meat is outragous right now and 12 was more of a money sink than its worth.. annoying too since 8/10 times its the convention for the daily..
slartibart Jan 23rd 2009 12:01PM
Hadn't noticed this either; I'm one of those guys who's been doing that as well.... convention at ledgermain? Skip.
This is a great change, thanks for pointing it out!