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by Alex Ziebart 
Jan 23rd 2009 at 9:00AM
This is quite possibly the most game altering change Blizzard has implemented in WoW thus far: Building a Basic Campfire no longer needs Simple Wood, only Flint and Tinder or a Gnomish Army Knife. This is right up there with stackable clams! Personally, my mind is blown.Okay, let's be serious, this is actually a fairly decent (and convenient) change. Is it absolutely needed? No, not at all, but how many of us carried around Simple Wood and Flint and Tinder at all times? Who took those things to raids with them? Very few people, if anybody at all. And I can recall tons of times that people have rushed to a raid just after getting home from work and had forgotten to cook up their consumables. These fires would've been legitimately useful right then, but the small annoyance of carrying stacks of Wood around made it pretty unlikely that anybody had them. Nowadays, I think just about everyone carries a Gnomish Army Knife (and they should if they don't), so this is actually very convenient! You don't need to carry anything extra at all.
My question is... what are we burning to make that fire now? Sure, if you're out in the wilderness you can just assume your character gathered some firewood, but you're not always in a position to do that! What if you're in the middle of Ulduar? Pretty hard to burn all of that stone, isn't it? Daniel Whitcomb suggested that his Death Knight will just summon a ghoul and light it aflame to cook his meal, but that seems a little macabre, even for him.
[Thanks for all of the tips, everyone!]
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Humor, Death Knight
Reader Comments (Page 4 of 6)
Sandberg Jan 23rd 2009 10:07AM
Seems to me that the Dalaranians sure love their Meat Loaf where I am. :)
But yes, it is nice to know that now it's only 4 Chilled Meat instead of 12 for that quest.
Jardal Jan 23rd 2009 9:50AM
I know a lot of people are complaining about these "game altering" changes that aren't really game altering. Frankly though, these make sense.
From a programming perspective you're just updating some data variables, this is easy stuff to have a new staff member do to start learning your code base.
So stop complaining about these changes, I know you THINK they're ignoring something bigger to work on these small changes, but odds are they're just getting someone up to speed with them.
Sheesh.
Tinsul Jan 23rd 2009 9:51AM
Isn't it clear? You're just going to have to toss on a(n imaginary) stack of cloth which we all carry to fuel the fire :)
Or something like that.
WoWie Zowie Jan 23rd 2009 9:55AM
i was never terribly miffed about carrying around a stack of wood.
it's really an insignificant part of the game. all said i'm glad i have an extra slot at least. woot =)
Rexe Jan 23rd 2009 9:56AM
Arcane Powder now stacks in lots of 100 vs. 20. A very nice undocumented change. I would carry 60 to 80 before raids, and now one bag slot is used as opposed to 3 to 4 slots.
Theadrick Jan 23rd 2009 10:00AM
Soon you won't need mats for any tradeskill... notice how since TBC for example cooking recipes have (mostly) not needed spices, but just the meat. I don't really understand it. Maybe soon we won't need anything more than the tradeskill recipe. Just do away with ore, herbs, etc entirely.
DigitalMonitor Jan 23rd 2009 10:20AM
Actually, the best Northrend recipes do need spices. Specifically Northern Spices.
turkeyspit Jan 23rd 2009 10:02AM
Awesome, now we will be able to build a fire and cook our food in Naxx...right before half the raid DC's as we start a boss fight.
Glad to see Blizzard working long and hard to fix things that don't matter.
peagle Jan 23rd 2009 10:55AM
Funny, and so true. This patch has moved raiding from the "completely unplayable due to lag" to "completely unplayable due to d/cs".
Matt Jan 23rd 2009 10:07AM
"How many of us carried around Simple Wood and Flint and Tinder at all times?"
I did.
Riz Jan 23rd 2009 10:31AM
freak
duskhawk Jan 23rd 2009 10:05AM
>.> I've been carrying around flint & tinder and simple wood every since my first toon learned to cook, almost four years ago now. I've since moved on to the army knife on toons that carried a gathering tool.
As a hunter/engineer, the wood was also useful for making arrows in TBC. The hunter will not complain about getting a bag slot back.
Way back in TBC, before they added flint & tinder to all the general/trade goods vendors that had the truncated, 'high level' mats only (rune thread, upper end vials, etc.), I actually posted on the Suggestions forums that they add it to a vendor that wasn't on the Scryer tier, because as an Aldor, there was nowhere in Outland to buy flint & tinder if you junked it for a bag slot while you were out and about. (That was before the proliferation of cooking fires in Shattrath.) Given that TBC's buff food was a lot nicer than Vanilla WoW's, the difficulties in finding/making a convenient fire were annoying.
Anelf Jan 23rd 2009 10:06AM
Alex,
Presumably you've accepted that mages can summon food and water from nothing, and that gnomes can carry several tons of iron around in their backpacks, but now you're worried where people get the wood from for fires?
:-D
syberghost Jan 23rd 2009 10:46AM
Gorilladin poo.
Evelinda Jan 23rd 2009 10:52AM
oh yeah... dung certainly does make good fuel!
Amaxe Jan 23rd 2009 11:11AM
Likewise we can burn what goes on in party channel by the same principle
DeathPaladin Jan 23rd 2009 11:43AM
Same thing if we could bottle Trade.
Single-handedly solve the energy crisis.
The EPA would be pissed, though. The exhaust from that is downright corrosive.
Wulfkin Jan 23rd 2009 10:50AM
Campfires had become irrelevant to me personally anyway, just use the cooking tables in the Horde Inn in Dalaran.
Paul Jan 23rd 2009 10:53AM
Am I the only one asking myself what is a camp fire? Please don't tell me this was a way to log out anywhere with rested xp. Please please don't tell me that.. I'll cry if that's the case.
peagle Jan 23rd 2009 10:59AM
It's not a portable camp, just a portable fire to cook foods and provide a negligible spirit buff.
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=818