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1-26-2009 @ 5:53PM
Let's see. So Blizz puts in a couple of instances where CC is necessary on a section or two. Those of us who enjoy the nuanced pull with a sheep, freeze, banish, shackle, rejoice. Those who don't avoid that instance like it has cooties. How is this bad? There are a number of us who remember and enjoy being able to chain trap, keep a mob sheeped, banished or shackled. There are a number of us who find the repeated application of: watch tank build threat, send in pet, spam Steady Shot incredibly boring. Let me go do the wash while you kill this guy, K? I'm on auto pilot as you obviously don't need any skill I might have, just aim and shoot. The beauty of this game is that there can be content challenging to a wide variety of people. Don't care for PvP? You don't have to do it. Hate, loathe and abhor Gnomer? You don't have to do it. Don't like the current wham, bam, thank you ma'am of instances? You don't have to do them, although you'll probably wind up needing them for gear if you want to see Naxx, but you can level to 80 without setting foot inside a Wrath instance. I'm looking forward to the next patch and whatever the designers come up with to challenge us. If it's a whole instance needing CC, I'll run it. If I don't like it, I won't be back. Simple as that.
1-26-2009 @ 6:02PM
You are right of course. Just realize how frustrating this suggestion is to those of us who tank. We are used to having the job of handling everything that comes up. Having to rely on a dpser, especially in a PuG, to do something right is very nerve wracking. I'm a control freak. That's why I tank. That's why I oppose changes to the game that require skill in other players. In realizing this about myself, I admit I am wrong to oppose CC in dungeons.There should be situations where you get to do something other than shoot at mobs until they fall over. In wrath it seems like they chose to take away CC as the thing DPS does other than damage. Instead it seems there are a great deal of encounters and instances where it became the job of the DPS to get out of AoE damage or flame strikes. So from my perspective that is what they choose to make your lives more interesting. Doesn't seem very interesting.I'd honestly like to see more active CC rather than passive CC. More stuns, interrupts and damage mitigation that must be invoked by non-tanks. Passive CC like polymorph and banish are not interesting even for the people responsible, I think. Passive CC like traps take a lot more skill, but offer no more rewards to the group than easy CC like polymorph/hex/sap/repentance/etc. So while people may respect a hunter who traps well, they still don't want to PuG one because the skill required is higher than that of an easy CC class.
1-26-2009 @ 6:19PM
You make a very good point. When forming a pug, asking for "good CC" is asking for trouble. What defines "good"? I've been in groups with hunters who have no clue how to trap. I've been in groups with hunters who only use Immolation and then wonder why the mob comes for them. /beat head on desk. Sadly, when all I have to do now is avoid pulling aggro, I can alt+tab during a boss fight and pay a bill, knowing that, as long as I don't pull your aggro, I'm fine. There is no skill. I know my job. If the mob breaks off, I got it for you and I'll hold it until you're ready to get it. If I can't freeze it, I'll kite it. Want it back? Okay, here I come with the mob after me. FD, it's yours. But you are right in that there aren't people who know all that and when pugging and you just want to run in, kill and run out, how can you audition your dps to find out if they can handle the inevitable oopses that come with a game? You can't of course, and it does make your job that much more stressful. If Blizz wants to give me the instance with the section of CC, I will relish each and every opportunity to chain freeze, to provide support to my tank, to make your burden a bit easier by getting one mob out of the way. And for the hunter who says, "OMG, I am so NOT going into that one", okay, don't. There are plenty of instances for you. So Mana, MD the skull and freeze the nipple? Got it.
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