The Silent Bob approach to group management
The world of groups: pugs, raids, arenas, guilds, confederations, servers; all of it means one thing: you have to know how to get along with each other. A big part of getting along with one another in a successful group is knowing how and when to get information across. This communication is often times hard to do, even for the most seasoned communicator. How do you tell someone that their tanking is so awful you'd rather let the hunter's pet be the main tank? What do you say to a healer to get them to understand that healing means more than casting their biggest heal all the time? And what do you do with the DPS who always decides to pull for the group?
Recently I've taken up a new way to deal with all these things. I call it the Silent Bob approach to group management.
The approach is outlined by three simple steps.
Step 1: Be quiet
Don't say anything, even when spoken to. Someone asks how you are? Don't say anything. Someone asks if you're ready? Don't say anything. Someone asks if you want that shiny new piece of gear? You guessed it, don't say anything.
If you must interact with the person use simple emotes. /nod /ready /no
You can also roll on things occasionally. But really, since this is the Silent Bob approach, you should be fine with your black coat like chest piece and the demon slaying golf club. George Carlin for the win, am I right?
Step 2: Always stand next to the hyper guy
By standing next to the hyper guy (the one who always talks and jumps around a lot) you'll barely have to talk or interact with the group. No matter if it's at the summoning stone, in a city, or during a boss fight, always stand next to him. He'll do 99% of the talking for you.
For example, someone in the party asks "Can I get a summons?" If you were alone at the summoning stone, away from hyper guy, you'd have to answer "yes." But since you're next to hyper guy at the summoning stone, he'll answer "Snootch to the bootch! Hell yes, me and Silent Bob are here to summon you! Natch!" You've avoided having to say anything and are proving yourself a worthy member of the group.
And if you're away from the summoning stone with the hyper guy? Then you're babysitting him so the group will get started quickly. Thus, you're still proving yourself a worthy member of the group.
Step 3: Speak once, and only once
Those who are students of Kevin Smith can tell you that in each of his Askewniverse movies Silent Bob essentially speaks once and only once. And when Silent Bob does speak, it is profound and life changing for the subject of his communication. Holden needs a kick in the pants? Silent Bob tells him how he's chasing Amy. Dante needs to appreciate his girlfriend? Silent Bob's remarks on lasagna clarify the situation. Poop monster got you down? Silent Bob is the instrument of He who is I am.
Take this approach in the group you're in. Pick one critical moment when everything is going wrong and speak then. Not only will everyone actually listen to what you're saying, chances are everyone will actually do what you say.
Three steps. Almost no talking. And you know what?
<silence>







Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Bizath Jan 26th 2009 11:07AM
Yes.
akoren Jan 26th 2009 2:40PM
great tips.....
DragonFireKai Jan 26th 2009 3:25PM
The Silent Bob moment in Pugs.
"Why have we wiped so many times!"
"Have you tried not standing in the fire?"
"You talk?"
Yeng Jan 26th 2009 6:07PM
And if someone is an asshat in the group, you kick them and say 'No Ticket'.
Kagon Jan 28th 2009 5:12PM
That's the best way to win at anything...Just keep quiet. Then everyone listens. I've tried being the hyper one and the silent. If you're hyper and tanking they sorta blow off what you say because they doubt the creditbility of it. Be quiet and everyone's amazed
James Jan 26th 2009 11:11AM
...
/approves
1ntens1ty Jan 26th 2009 11:08AM
I like it!!!!! I'm going to have to try this.
Lythic Jan 26th 2009 11:09AM
This actually sounds like something I might try. I only ever play as a Tank or a Healer, so I have the "stress" of trying to Tank or Heal, as well as dealing with the rest of the group. Often I can't be bothered trying to argue with or instruct idiots, so this method might just work for me.
Spoonman Jan 26th 2009 12:29PM
I usually tank or heal aswell and the only time I can be completely silent is when I am healing, especially in raids.
If i am quite when tanking, people tend to not know what they should be doing, which is weird since everything is just AoE now...
Jinee Jan 26th 2009 11:09AM
We have a guy like this in guild except that he just don't talk in vent. I've heard him talk in vent in the 3 months I've raided with him twice. He has a mic just never uses it and he happens to be the highest DPS and knows all of the fights. He damn near wiped the raid because he spoke and everybody alt+tabbed to see who it was.
Tifa Jan 26th 2009 11:35AM
hmm... sounds familar...
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=E1E9473BEA7264F5FBADFA83FD7377B4.app06_05?topicId=6735963541&sid=1
"Mr. Mikeless
- Has a microphone. Hears the conversation and directions. Once wiped the raid because he started talking and most folks alt-tabbed to see who the hell was speaking. May be your best player. "
Try to be more original then something that was even posted on wowinsider.
Jinee Jan 26th 2009 11:51AM
I would have except that is exactly what happened... I know the post. All but the MT alt+tabbed because the MT knew him.
Rihlsul Jan 26th 2009 12:16PM
I've actually had that happen in our guild too, so, it's a stereotype based in reality, not just made up for fun (with anyone mentioning it 'mkaing it up').
Thander Jan 26th 2009 12:30PM
I'm one of those people. At the end of the day, I'm tired. I don't feel like talking. Plus I'm usually playing in the night time when the kids are sleeping. It's too loud to talk when they are in the next room. (very thin walls)
vexis58 Jan 26th 2009 12:37PM
I'm like that too. I raided with my guild for over six months before they ever got me to speak on Vent. Mostly because I would raid late at night and didn't want to wake up my roommate.
Xecnamalain Jan 26th 2009 12:57PM
LMAO, THAT DUDE ROCKS. THE POWER TO WIPE A RAID WITH A MIER SENTENCE ON VENT, WOW.
Fishbowl Jan 26th 2009 4:56PM
Lol.. word
Jariaji Jan 26th 2009 6:56PM
I'm like that, except I rarely talk at all, in guild chat, in vent, nothing, rarely in whispers. I just dont talk because not to be offensive but lets face it most of the stuff people talk about it utter crap. I was an officer in the guild and most people wondered why because I was like a stranger, none of them knew me. I'd log on, wouldnt say hi, would log off wouldnt say bye.
Not to blow my own trumpet but hell, I was the guy who did his job and then some, like said in the post, I knew the fights...I could make alterations to our tactics if they werent working with the raid leader. I was a healer and always out healed the others with the least amount of overhealing. I noted down those pratting about. I was according to other officers the most underrated person in the raids. Whilst the tank and the DPS got all the credit, the other officers said I pretty much held raids together because I was dependable even when silent.
Anyway one day when we wiped against a farm boss a dozen times or more I let loose on Vent, yelling at others, calling out the idiots who pratted about. Most people took a double take, didnt realize who was speaking and when they realized were shocked. People listened to what I said and we got the guy down the next try.
The Silent Bob approach works. Simple as.
Evelinda Jan 27th 2009 8:34AM
Thats me, baby... well, maybe not with raid wiping powers, but still...
i'd talk all the time in gchat or raid chat, but the folks in my old guild knew i was in vent, and knew i had a mic that worked, but i'd never use it, and so they were always trying to get me to talk and when i did, there was frequently squealing... good times, i miss those peeps :P
Deadly. Off. Topic. Jan 27th 2009 9:09AM
My fiancee is like this. He doesn’t talk a lot on Vent and as soon as he opens his mouth to explain something, people are like “OMG, he talks!”