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1-26-2009 @ 11:40AM
Not saying that this isn't a great approach, as I'm sure there are many good approaches to grouping in instances, but, at least in the case of PUGs, I've always found that talking a bunch, not in a hyper way, but in a very open and friendly way right from the start tends to help people see the group as some friends instead of random faceless people that they can leave at the drop of the hat.When I ask how people are doing that night, and make sure everyone is ok with my level of dps/method of tanking/healing, the half-way-through-instance drop rate goes wayyy down. All this can be done without being the hyper one too.
1-26-2009 @ 11:59AM
Thank you, I was starting to wonder if anyone understood why we actually talk in groups anymore.Personally, I hate "Silent Bob" types, and if I'm the leader of have any sway over the leader at all, I kick unresponsive players. It's not just phat lewtz for you, it's a social thing in a multiplayer game. I don't want to regale you with stories of what I put in my toilet this morning, I just want to have a decent time.Cutting off all communication removes the possibility of saying things like, "Nice job picking up that add," or "Good heals," or "Hey man, you might want to turn viper off," or "Pass/roll or Need/Greed?" or even--god forbid--"Sorry, that wipe was my fault, won't happen again.""How do you tell someone that their tanking is so awful you'd rather let the hunter's pet be the main tank? [and so on]"It's not really that hard, Adam. You be open, honest, frank, and mature about it. "Tank, could you please try to pull one group at a time instead of three groups at once? It's really stressing our healer out." The group member in question is bound to blow and wtfnub all over you, but if you keep at it in a calm and friendly manner and simply learn to handle people, the group will see that you're being reasonable and he's not. Offering up a replacement will help as well.Making your solution to potentially hard group conversation the cutoff of all communication whatsoever is a cop-out, and as someone who likes to see what I can solo all the time and hardly likes to pug anything I rarely say this, but you belong in a single-player game.
1-26-2009 @ 12:28PM
/agreedA Silent Bob a good group member does not make. I kinda feel cheated that I'm trying to actually interact with a group and figure things out and some db in the back is just sitting there, not contributing to the discussion that helped us down the boss, but still looting the boss when he's dead. They're essentially a leech.It seems this Silent Bob bullshit only works when you have a "hyper guy" to do all the talking that needs to be done. But when everyone in the group doesn't speak (and yes I've been in groups like that) they usually suck.I've earned around 150 emblems of heroism since the lauch of woltk, and I earned around 75% of those pugging and I can tell sincerely that no communication = fail.
1-26-2009 @ 12:37PM
By the way, before anyone comes along and says I was whooshed or that I have no sense of humor, yes, I can see that Adam tagged this "Humor." I can also see a slew of serious comments from other people who say they always do this and it works like a charm, and I also know there are bound to be more people that read this and genuinely think "hey, that's a great idea!"No.
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