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1-29-2009 @ 6:04PM
Does this mean I can take major patch days, expansion releases, and/or in-game festivals off as religious holidays?On a more serious note: /facepalm
1-29-2009 @ 6:31PM
So, people can make up stupid religions based on a book about a guy who walk on water, but not on a game with a community of millions in all ages and kinds? Good to know.WoW is just a game? Well The Bible was just a book. It doesn't really matter if it's "just a game", I'll say the same that I counter "u waste ur time on a game lolz" comments with, does it really matter if it's a game if it grants me enjoyment? I can't really say I regret years of gaming, merely because gaming gave me enjoyment, so it fulfilled it's purpose thus worth my time like any other activity of enjoyment. Some watch TV for fun, some get drunk, in the end it doesn't matter as long as it gives you what you expect it to.WoW is a game that has become so massive that it's more then a game now. People make it part of their lifestyle, fit gametime into their daily schedule, raid, make friends, it's like a second life to manage, because you've built yourself a community inside the game just like you would in real life. Second life wasn't meant like it sounds, but I guess you get it. Everyone knows what WoW is, it would be very hard to miss something so exposed. Not that I look for religion in a game, or religion at all for that matter, but WoW is universal enough to be one. Never saw a need for religion to go along, but as I grasp it the main idea is to unite and believe in something, how does WoW not unite? Christianity has existed for 1000s of years, if WoW kept existing eventually it could become as grand, but WoW hasn't existed for 1000s of years, just a few. Yet it's so massive, we see all kinds of people enjoy this game.. the ones you would never expect to play a game. Celebs, old folk, kiddies, oh and those guys that use WoW for research even. WoW has covered just about all age groups and people types, that may not be news regarding MMOs but WoW has shed more light on it.Wall of text crits you. You die.
1-29-2009 @ 6:43PM
I'm an atheist and think all religions are stupid, so your (subtle?) jab at me in the form of the following quote..."So, people can make up stupid religions based on a book about a guy who walk on water, but not on a game with a community of millions in all ages and kinds?"...just made you look dumb and made me disregard the entire rest of your post.
1-29-2009 @ 6:51PM
@Dez:Are you worshipping something? A certain piece of gear? Your favorite vanilla or BC tier set? A relevant npc? Perhaps even Ghostcrawler or Blizzard itself?No?Then, surprise, it's not a religion!
1-29-2009 @ 6:53PM
Dez, you rock!!You basically summed up my thoughts on gaming and Christianity (and religion in general). If you enjoy it, do it. If people consider the Bible more than a book, than people can certainly consider WoW as more than a game. You may be laughed at (lololol Christianity. roflrofl WoW), but it is what you're into, so it's what's best for you.
1-29-2009 @ 7:26PM
Firstly, @Dez:If you don't believe in the Bible, then of course YOU would see it as just a book. You seem to view religion as anything that gives you enjoyment, or any specific good feelings. That, however, is false; and you could never have any hope of understanding it because you don't, and probably never will, believe in it. Don't say you know what it's like to swim if you've never been in the water (to coin a phrase).And as a general reply...That kid better look closely at everything that gives people enjoyment then. Don't people gather to drink? Doesn't drinking make said people think differently and become happy? Don't friends gather to smoke weed? Doesn't it make them think differently and become happy? Well...?? (/agree with Vragis further down, as well)The only reason so many people like WoW is because it's an in depth game with an element of **infinite story telling** (
1-30-2009 @ 1:59AM
@ NeofoxYes, to most non-Christians it's just a book, funny that. If anything it's funny how "I believe in it therefore it's real" still has any weight amongst you lot.
1-30-2009 @ 4:12AM
@ Dez - Yes the bible IS JUST a book, even to religious types. It's what's contained therein that is more than that, to them.@ Neofox - you miss the point i fear. Try finding a definition for a religion and then comparing it to WoW. WoW is more a cult to my mind but some people find Religion and Cults hard to differentiate.It's actually quite an interesting subject if handled sensibly. Just look at how people respond when someone says publicly that they're going to quit the game. Immediate GTFO's and "good riddance"'s, essentially "We don't want you in OUR club anyway!"'sI'd actually go so far as to say that WoW probably is complex enough a Cult that it has multiple "Sects" Hordeists, Alliancers, Class Zealots,Rollers(Dictate who should do what roll.), altists, Twinks etc. Possibly even Elitists and "Casuals"some sects might cross over and the mass of sects could probably be compared to a huge dynamic ,expanding/contracting , collection of Venn diagrams.... Should you want to look at it in such a way. I could write a paper on that easy... in fact i think collectively with these comments we pretty much already did for this guy.
1-30-2009 @ 11:16PM
as a christian and a high school senior studying worldviews, this is pretty interesting. first off i agree with rosencratz, that the bible IS just a book, but its the words and the messages inside that christians should search for truth (among many other things) in. a lot of people get wrapped up in the physical side of the bible (and other objects like crucifixes) and idolize it, the physical book, more than they should. back on topic, i think whether WoW is a religion really depends on who is the speaker. to me its simply a means of entertainment, just like drumming or listening to music. that doesnt make it a religion for me. however there are people who do spend the majority of their time playing/thinking about it. its when they try to search for meaning and place their hope and faith in the game that it becomes much more than a pastime, it becomes a lifestyle and possibly, their religion. it may sound ridiculous using that terminology but thats what i think. if anything, the religion (or philosophy i should say) of these people is more of hedonism than actually WoWism, if you will. even those that (whether jokingly or not) say that they worship WoW, most likely are not worshiping the game, but the pleasure/satisfaction/whatever it gives them.
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