WoW still on store shelves in Australia
Our good friend Tateru Nino (who is in fact an Aussie herself) has a followup over at Massively about the report that World of Warcraft was no longer legally available in Oz earlier this week. The issue isn't in the rules -- those are the same: unclassified games like World of Warcraft are held to the same rules as banned games -- but in the lack of enforcement. Since the issue has gone public, stores are continuing to sell the game (though some have removed larger sale displays of the games), and law enforcement has made no moves to try and get the games off of store shelves.The real problem here, of course, isn't that Australia wants to ban these games, but that they're falling through the cracks of what seems to be an extremely lax rating system. There's really no rating assigned to these games, so according to the rules, they can't be sold. But the rules make no sense in this case: no one, as far as we've heard, actually wants to ban these games in the country, and no one cares whether they're being sold on store shelves or not.
Still, Massively does expect action, eventually, even if it's an apparently much-needed rejiggering of the ratings system to include these "unrated" games. Bottom line right now is that if you want to buy or sell World of Warcraft in Australia, no one's stopping you from doing so.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Sladedarkonis Feb 6th 2009 10:37AM
haha
Alan Feb 6th 2009 10:37AM
Holy Grammar Trainwreck, Batman!
Teo Feb 6th 2009 10:37AM
Rather humorous, really. As a side note, you need to proof read that article. The first paragraph hurts my brain.
weissritter Feb 6th 2009 10:48AM
Gee, "Senior Editor" Mike. The last time I heard/read your english that poor was when you were playing WoTLK on launch night at 4am and letting us watch.
Might wanna go over this one quickly. xD
Teo Feb 6th 2009 10:51AM
Consequently, your post makes my brain hurt, too. "The last time I heard/read your english that poor...." Ouch!
weissritter Feb 6th 2009 10:54AM
Actually, both 'The last time I heard your english that poor...' and 'The last time I read your english that poor...' are fine for non-formal english...
Teo Feb 6th 2009 11:06AM
I believe you're looking for:
"The last time your English was this poor..."
"The last time I heard you speak this poorly..."
The way you're speaking is like bloody murder.
"The last time I read your english that poor..." is just wrong, so very wrong.
Retropally Feb 6th 2009 10:50AM
I have no doubt he'll not hear the end of his poor grammer when he does the wowinsider show :P
Mike Schramm Feb 6th 2009 10:59AM
Holy cow. Sorry about that. It made sense when I wrote it, but my mind must have been elsewhere. Should be fixed now.
Hollywood Ron Feb 6th 2009 11:13AM
It's okay Mike, you were trying to find a place to buy that talking Murloc. I understand; I want one too.
Tom Luongo Feb 6th 2009 11:09AM
And, no, Mike the issue really is that there is some dumb law restricting the sale/use of computer software to those who are willing to buy it and have the resources to do so. The rating system is absolutely secondary. Why should anyone accept the concept that one piece of software is salable while another is not?
Age restrictions are just a form of substitution for bad/inattentive parenting, putting the onus of responsibility on the store owner to police what a child sees and empowering government busy-bodies to run around creating and 'enforcing' laws which most people see as unnecessary. Worse still, the money needed to fund this 'enforcement' is taken from the very same pockets of people who claim they don't have enough time to police their child's behavior in the first place. This creates a downward spiral of wasted capital and ensures that the very problem the law was supposed to address becomes more ingrained in the fabric of the society, institutionalized, as it were.
Grammar issues are easy to deal with... they can be corrected in a matter of minutes. Bad laws, on the other hand, have real consequences and take years to undo.
Ta,
Teo Feb 6th 2009 11:19AM
I have trouble agreeing with you. In this sense, why should one movie be restricted for sale (pornography) while another is not?
The ratings are there for a reason. It gives parents a method of gauging whether a game is appropriate or not. I do not expect a parent to play through an entire game before buying it for their child. When I was a child, I had an NES, and my parents had to trust the game. That said, Nintendo alone monitored the games and ensured they were proper. This is no longer the case.
The issue now comes into play with ratings in Australia. The simple solution is to get a rating on WoW. Personally, this is a problem with Australia's structure for ratings, not an issue with the concept of restricting games based on ratings.
Yeng Feb 6th 2009 11:56AM
So how come WoW doesn't have a rating there when it has one here? Just slap the T on it and be good, or is it the 'Online gameplay may vary' part of it?
Teo Feb 6th 2009 12:16PM
What you're not realizing is that the ratings we have in the US are not used everywhere. Australia has it's own set of rules, restrictions, and ratings.
I suggest you read this, which was linked above: http://www.massively.com/2009/01/28/mmogs-defy-classification-in-australia/
Ecthalar Feb 6th 2009 12:19PM
When this story broke on Kotaku, there was an epic thread started by some troll that really did want to ban the sale of all MMOs. Check it here:
http://kotaku.com/5145230/australian-police-minister-urges-people-to-report-wow-sales
Ranzell is the guy who started it all. Tool.
Ross Feb 6th 2009 2:03PM
Told you so.
http://www.wowinsider.com/profile/1598632/
Rhoran Feb 6th 2009 6:49PM
Hi Guys,
Just got back from a city (Melbourne) shopping quest and I can confirm that WoW is definitely still on the shelves here in Oz.
Spoke to the manager of my local EA Games store and he snickered at the idea of taking it off the shelves. "I can't see the cops wasting time enforcing a stupid regulation like this so till head office tells me to stop it stays where it is, on the feature display shelf " was his comment.
tonedeff Feb 6th 2009 8:58PM
This site and others are making it sound alot worse then it is.
Not a single game store I have been into has changed a single thinga bout advertising and selling wow.
And the ones i have spoken to either dont know about this or care.
Tateru Nino Feb 7th 2009 1:13AM
We've got appointments to speak with the managers of a couple key game chains early next week.
Kazia Feb 8th 2009 9:54PM
The problem happening in Australia is politics and has seemingly little to do with games.
To enact a national law such as one that applies ratings to medium (in this case computer games), Australian constitution requires agreement from all State Governors. A rating systems has been proposed and is agreed to by all but the Governor of South Australia who claims that putting an "R" rating on an item encourages minors to want to gain access to said item (or some other such rubbish). From what I understand this governor is ultra-conservative and is taking his (minority) stand to maintain supprot from the fanatics who supported his election (no offence intended to my South A brothers).
What this means is since this law cannot get passed until he agrees with we effectively have no rating system which means of course that selling any game not rated is illegal as under currnet law games require a rating before distribution.Since its sucha well known farce (like most things related to our political system) its not enforced of course since most people have better things to do.
And if you think this is a joke you should see the current Federal Goverments attempts to act as a "net nanny" for the country by forcing ISP's (90% of which have refused) to filter out web addresses that are not considered acceptable viewing material for the Australian public. (At this point I should note that the above may not be perfectly accurate as its what I remember from reading past newspaper articles on the topic - but you get the idea)
Welcome to the globes most backward non-third world country - you call it Australia, I call it home.
I need a stubbie...