Australian AG: MMOs like WoW must be classified
The good folks over at the OC (don't call it that) Register's Blizzard blog have gotten some more information about that recent flap with many MMOs being unrated and thus legally unable to be sold there. They talked to Daniel Gleeson of the Australian Attorney General's department, and he said that yes, the MMO games like World of Warcraft will have to be rated to be sold in the country. But he also reiterated what we'd heard a little while after Massively posted their story: that games were still being sold on store shelves, regardless of the actual legal tangles.The Blizzard Blog also spoke with the IEAA, the classification board down there for games, and they were told the same thing that Massively was: while the board thought that MMOs did not require a rating, it has since become clear that they do. The difference, says the AG guy, is that the IEAA believed that "games" like WoW were actually services, not games, and thus didn't fall into the classification system.
But now it's clear to everyone that they do, so we'll expect to see the IEAA pass out a rating for World of Warcraft and the other MMOs on sale down there, and then this will all be over. It's interesting to note that ratings may be a very cultural thing -- here in America, ratings are pretty strictly issued by the ESRB, partially because the videogame industry is worried about governement intervention in the system (if the industry can't police themselves, angry parents may ask the government to step in). But in Australia, the government obviously seems largely unconcerned about the ratings. Then again, Aussies aren't completely laid back about everything having to do with MMOs.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
sarcastx Feb 18th 2009 5:06PM
Ok;
But only if we can FINALLY have an "R" rating for Video Games.
I'm damn sick of having games like GTAIV edited down
Merus Feb 18th 2009 5:33PM
The IEAA doesn't issue ratings. That's the province of the OFLC, who are actually a government agency. So there already is government interference, but the culture's very different and so the government is a lot more laid back about the issue than the American government would be, lack of R rating aside.
Sean Riley Feb 18th 2009 5:34PM
Beat me to it. :) That said, it's no longer the OFLC. They're just called the Classification Board now.
vocenoctum Feb 18th 2009 6:31PM
Actually, that government interference is exactly what the US rating system is trying to avoid. I don't see how they're more "laid back" about anything in Aus when they just have defacto bans on games they deem bad for you.
I don't see how the US government is any less laid back about such issues, I'd chalk it up to outside perception of the US.
StoNe Feb 18th 2009 9:40PM
@ vocenoctum
Wow miss the plot some more?
It's not about banning random games, I'm sure the US have the same attitude towards unrated material which is what the issue is really about.
You can't sell if it is media that requires a rating which it does not have. How is this different to the US?
I think the answer you are looking for? In the US they actually assigned a rating...you know all that ESBR junk you see on a box, it's that. In Aus we have different ratings, of which they are struggling to find a niche for online games.
Two points for Australia for looking outside the box and seeing electronic media as an evolving changing industry that doesn't sit the same category 15 years ago.
vocenoctum Feb 19th 2009 10:22PM
(forgot about the post so late reply...)
My point is that you missed the point, the US of A doesn't have government mandated ratings. The voluntary system is in place to avoid having a government system, because we don't want the mistakes of the Australian system. (and European stuff too)
Saying that Aus is more laid back then the USA is erroneous simply because the US government doesn't have any reg's to be up tight about.
Sean Riley Feb 18th 2009 5:33PM
Unless I am mistaken, the IEAA is not the group responsible for classifying games in Australia. That is for the Classification Board to perform. The IEAA is instead an advocacy group for videogames in Australia.
Geoff Feb 18th 2009 5:44PM
Also it's not really fair to say Australia is unconcerned about ratings. As you can see above we've had ongoing issues trying to get an adult/R rating for games here so many games are re-edited to be released here (or not released at all).
However police seem rather uninterested in ratings enforcement. I know in NSW they every now and then (3-4 years?) crack down on places selling X rated movies which is not legal in this state. But that's about all you ever hear of. Cinemas can ask for ID for R rated movies but often don't bother.
Acts Feb 18th 2009 5:54PM
It's typical of this place to be behind in things such as game ratings. There is no reason why we shouldn't have an "R" for games. If I want blood, guts and sex in my games that is my choice and my hard earned cash that will pay for it. We have R rated clubs, magazines, movies, but not for games go figure.
Mcgriddle Feb 18th 2009 6:07PM
"the OC (don't call it that)"
Nice Arrested Development reference.
quin Feb 18th 2009 7:21PM
Lol @ the link to A Current Affair ... trust me that's a sensationalist telemagazine program, nothing even approaching real news.
"I don't see how they're more "laid back" about anything in Aus when they just have defacto bans on games they deem bad for you."
It's just a stereotype dude. How about you try tvisiting before generalising anyway? Same as you can't say "everyone in the US is a dumbass creationist who can't even be bothered voting". There are people like that (perhaps a lot of people), but not everyone in the US is like that. It's the same here. That's why stereotypes are so ridiculous. Almost every country has every type of person. No country has the monopoly on stupidity or brilliance, hard line governance or laissez faire politics; there's a bit of everything everwhere. If you live somewhere other than your home country that's one of the most important lessons you'll have.
Frankly this story needs to die. Hopefully it hasn't created a red tape explosion in Canberra (our Australian capital), with gamers being worse off.
Hilton Feb 18th 2009 7:20PM
Quick correction to your Article...
The IEAA are an industry association - They represent different companies.
http://www.ieaa.com.au/about_us.html
The Classification Board (formally known as the OFLC) issue ratings for films and games etc.
http://www.classification.gov.au/special.html?n=253&p=78
They are two completely separate entities.
Sethaan Feb 18th 2009 8:48PM
"Frankly this story needs to die" indeed. I thought it had, see
http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2009/02/blizzard_wow_is_sold_legally_in_australia_after_all.html
Basically: "Online only game - not a computer game for the purposes of the Classification Act. This is due to the fact that the product sold in stores does not include a computer game, but rather provides data to access an online game."
Furthermore, the AGD doesnt have jurisdiction over what is and isnt required to be classified. Stores are still selling MMOs here and are not worried at all about this.
Besides, drawing attention to our flawed rating system is probably not in the best interests of those who still believe games are made only for children, who should be protected from them.
Zarfay Feb 19th 2009 12:52AM
Australia has just as many "think of the children" attitudes as the u.s, it's just the gaming culture is alot smaller than that of the states...
pillysillows Feb 19th 2009 12:36AM
Ahh. Beat me to pointing out the AD reference. That made me laugh and I didn't even bother reading the article. Something about videogame censorship in Ostrayluh?
Mohrlock Feb 19th 2009 1:23AM
"But in Australia, the government obviously seems largely unconcerned about the ratings. "
I just have to say the Governments here (I'm Australian) are actually concerned about ratings in this country! Contrary to popular belief there is a massive gaming population here in Australia, one of which I've been part of for well over a decade.
Whether they put a rating to this game or not is a matter of debate, quiet honestly it'll probably get slapped with the usual M15+ "Content may change with online play" or whatever that stupid quote is that basically means you can't rate people because you don't know what people will play this game.
Mind this being slightly off-topic, but the s#!t thing about being here in Australia is the lack (and ignorance) to have an R18+ rating for video games here. It is completely fine to release movies with this rating but here in Australia the Government, or the Classification Board, has decided that gaming is a market for children therefore we have no need for such a rating. Forget the fact that the average age of gamers here in Australia is actually the 20-30 market (loose sources from several Australian PC enthusiast magazines).
What does this bring? Well we miss out on the odd game here or there, we have glorious goops of red blood changed to green/blue or completely removed, huge amounts of language & in some cases whole scenes of games removed all together. Then it gets slapped with a MA15+ rating and with what's written under that you'd swear you were getting something that was made as a collaboration between Quentin Tarantino, Sam Raimi & Francis Ford Copola.
The most recent in my mind being F.E.A.R. 2 which was initially banned then had the ban lifted a few months later allowing a release with MA15+. The Classification Board (ex-OFLC) really needs to pull there finger out and give games fair ratings, WoW included, as all they are doing is making us gamers buy our games elsewhere (read: online) and helping us fund another country's economy.
ciross Feb 19th 2009 2:14AM
Actually its not even that, all the politicians and government bodies with the exception of one individual seem to be fine with implementing an R rating, its just that one individual has more or less the power to veto it.
That git, Michael Atkinson.
Mohrlock Feb 19th 2009 5:31AM
Michael Atkinson does play a large role in this but by no means is he solely responsible for the whole of Australia's rating debacle.
Sure he is the one that has raised the question to the Attorney-Generals' board but people need to vote with him for it to be accepted. If that weren't the case I think us Australians would have alot more to worry about than missing out on the R rating on games.
And the Classifications Board (ex-OFLC) still does have the right to chose what ratings any form of media/literature recieves and if it is even accepted into this country.
A great article stating Mr. Atkinson's arguement can be found here (which does support a majority of what I stated previously hehe)...
http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/03/why_michael_atkinsons_opposal_of_r18_does_bugger_all_to_protect_kids_promotes_crime.html
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