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2-18-2009 @ 4:10PM
People complain about raids being too easy, and then complain about these hard modes?
2-18-2009 @ 4:14PM
That's the nature of WoW.Whatever the developers do there is someone, somewhere who will QQ about it.Always.
2-18-2009 @ 4:22PM
People on my guild dub it "qq moar mode"... I'm stoked about this.Are we looking at a 1 step increase (aka Sarth 1 drake) or multiple (Sarth 1, 2, or 3 drakes)? I hope there are a few bosses that include multiple modes, instead of just "ok, do this for a slight difficulty increase" on every boss.
2-18-2009 @ 4:23PM
People always complain.And now that the staff is giving us more attention, they're complaining more... and louder.
2-18-2009 @ 4:37PM
@Nic Lake -Blizz has stated that of the 14 bosses in Ulduar, 11 will have some kind of hard mode, and many of those (sorry, no concrete numbers) will have multiple gradations of difficulty so that players can choose HOW hard to make it. So it sounds like they agree with you that a sliding scale of difficulty is better than "easy or hard - you get one or the other."The first one we know about is the very first boss fight, against the Flame Leviathan. There will be 4 destructible "defense towers" around the area leading up to the Leviathan. Similar to the drakes on Sartharion, the more towers that are up when you engage the boss, the more difficult the fight will be, but the better the rewards. With four towers, that makes for five difficulties (zero to four towers remaining) on the first boss fight alone.SWEET!
2-18-2009 @ 4:54PM
Not a contradiction. Hard modes feel like a copout because it's NOT NEW CONTENT. Oops, caps... :) Sartharion with drakes is harder than without... but it's still the same basic content. If they deliver enough content this isn't an issue, but saying "Go do that encounter you've already seen in a hard mode" isn't a good rejoinder to "there's damn little content." The problem with Wrath for some people is that Naxx wasn't that hard for many and Malygos, OS and VoA are short, single boss encounters (I don't count the drakes as bosses in OS). Contrast this to TBC where you had Kara, Gruul/Mag and THEN SSC and TK. Would TBC have been as appealing if 2.0 had shipped with Kara, Gruul and Mag and they say "But do Mag with channelers alive!!"? Of course not.
2-18-2009 @ 7:52PM
In some cases, they are consistent -- their argument amounts to "There should be more Sunwells that the facerolling PUGing scrubs would be unworthy to gaze upon, let alone dare to step foot in".They call Naxx easy mode WoW because just people can walk in wearing *gasp* quest or reputation rewards and contribute, and they hate instances with hard modes because it doesn't give them enough of an ePeen boost to beat 10-man Sarth+3 drakes.They want WoW to have content that only THEY can see, because they've been raiding since Molten Core was the brave new frontier. Or because they'll slave away for weeks on the PTRs to hone their skillz to get that coveted Realm First! (or if they're lucky, World First!) 3 hours after the raid hits the live servers.
2-19-2009 @ 7:19AM
Jay in Oregon is more or less right, although I'd express it in less hostile terms.Hard Modes are the equivalent of doing a boss encounter with one hand tied behind your back. The fact that you get *recognition* for doing things with one hand tied behind your back doesn't change the fact that you're doing them with one hand tied behind your back. For a lot of people I think it feels like a gimmick.I actually have a lot of sympathy for the "hardcore" raiders who want raiding to be off-limits to less experienced players. Us casuals have the whole pre-80 game to play around in, by rushing us into raid content, all Blizzard does is stop us from appreciating the rest of the game.
2-19-2009 @ 4:00PM
While I appreciate your tone, DanH, I confess I am a little confused on two of your points:1) How are hardcore raiders locked out of the pre-80 game?2) How is Blizzard rushing casuals into raid content? (Or, possibly, am I misreading your last sentence, and "us" has changed contexts from "us casuals" to "us hardcore?")I'm not aware of either of those things happening, so if you could elaborate, I think I would be able to understand better.
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