Shifting Perspectives: The dual-specced Druid
Every Tuesday, Shifting Perspectives explores issues affecting Druids and those who group with them. This week, in the interests of keeping our writer away from editors of the opposite faction on PvP servers, we examine dual specs.Between lollygagging here at WoW Insider Central and engaging in some extracurricular indolence, I've often wondered where I'd take the column after finishing the bear pre-raid post. I could write something on how to theorycraft the highest-HPM tree, I thought, or get around to testing whether weapon skill has an unintended effect on bear threat. Look at the potential return from Eclipse procs as a function of fight mobility? Argue whether it's worth it to take Feral Aggression in a hybrid feral build? Or compose an entire column as a mockument to T.S. Eliot's most famous poem:
Q: Let us go then, you and I --
A: No.
All good ideas. But then we received the following missive from that enemy of all that is good and right in the publishing world, the editor:
MEMO: To all WoW Insider class columnists
FROM: You know who.
TEXT: Write something on how your class will deal with the upcoming dual-spec system in patch 3.1, or Dan "One-Eye" O'Halloran will "remember" where he left his whip.
"Well," I thought. "That sounds like a good idea too."
Before anything else, you want to ask yourself what you really want out of the new system:
- Do you find yourself in raids knowing that, no matter how required your spec is for certain encounters, you'd be contributing more on others with a different one?
- Are you more interested in saving the huge piles of gold you've been spending switching between your most-requested specs?
- Or do you constantly change specs in order to PvP?
a). A Moonkin who runs a spec without Improved Faerie Fire and one with it (in case his raid's Shadow Priest with Misery doesn't show up), or:
b). A bear who only runs a spec with 5/5 Feral Aggression if 2/2 Frailty or 5/5 Improved Demoralizing Shout isn't available.
-- if you're in this boat and prefer to play the spec you're already using, then dual-specs will find their best use for you as a means of covering or not covering raid buffs without having to drop a ton of gold. Because that's using the system to address problems caused by raid attendance or composition while still occupying the same role, the answer to the question of, "How do I spec?" is pretty simple: pick a best-case scenario spec (when someone else has brought a raid buff) and a worst-case scenario one (when they haven't). Tonight we're more concerned with dual-specs giving you the opportunity to bring an entirely different role (or vastly increased damage) to a stable raid or group play.
PvP
Going between PvE and PvP builds (or cycling between two PvP builds) seems fairly self-explanatory. I will freely confess; as of patch 2.4.2 and 3/3 Survival of the Fittest being buffed to effective crit immunity versus raid bosses, I forswore all current, future, or hypothetical involvement in PvP, so I'm only really able to discuss it as an (admittedly interested) observer.
If you're a hardcore PvPer and regularly swap between a PvE build for dungeon- or raid-running with your guild and what you actually use in battlegrounds or arena, then your way forward should be pretty clear -- and markedly less expensive. If you're primarily interested in swapping between different PvP specs (Restoration, for example, often gets destroyed by the vast legions of Death Knights now overrunning battlegrounds, but may be what your partners still depend upon for 3's), I would simply use your best judgment as to which spec has encountered the most success in different environments.
On to the PvE builds!
FERAL (BEAR) and MOONKIN (PvE): RAR RAR, PEW PEW
Bizarre as this combination sounds, I've thought about it -- and it might also be a good option for you depending on your raid's typical composition. My guild's two moonkin have had attendance issues lately, which often leaves our raids without one and has a correspondingly negative impact on our casters. Moonkin Aura, Improved Moonkin Form, and Earth and Moon are better contributions to overall raid DPS than Leader of the Pack (unless your raid is overrun with Hunters and melee DPS and you're the only feral). And, to be honest, I enjoy playing a moonkin a lot more than I currently enjoy playing an extremely ugly cat.
On that note, a bear/moonkin spec would allow me to forget that Tauren cat form even exists, so...sign me up.
Pros: Allows you to enjoy two very different playstyles. Ranged DPS is less a liability on most (current) raid bosses than melee. On fights where you're not tanking, your guild lacks a moonkin, and you have a lot of casters, you'll provide more raid DPS (and/or avoid duplicating LotP with another feral around).
Cons: Having to collect two entirely different sets of gear is a hassle, neither gear is optimized (or even particularly good) for cat DPS or Restoration in the event that you respec out, and if you're not that experienced with one of them, it'll take time to learn how to play it well. Then again, that could be said of any spec. Also, a melee-heavy raid will get more DPS from LotP than it will from the aforementioned Balance buffs even if you don't have another moonkin.
MOONKIN (PvE) and FERAL (CAT PvE): I WANT YOU DEAD AND I DON'T CARE HOW
The dual-spec of choice for people who just want to see the world burn.
Pros: Either spec will allow you to blow through enemies like Kleenex. Large numbers. More large numbers. And more large numbers after that. A sideline in kitty will also allow you to get some off-tanking done for your guild if needed.
Cons: Cat builds have limited usefulness in the event that you'd need to tank something bigger and meaner (although I am very intrigued by Kalon's recent work on the extent to which you can get away with cat gear and talentswhile tanking raid bosses, and have experimented with this on heroic achievement runs where DPS is a major requirement). Running a two-DPS dual-spec is also heavily dependent on your guild or server having a decent supply of tanks or healers around to allow you to keep pew-pewing.
I'm very skeptical of the extent to which that's true, and would encourage most Druids to run at least one spec that will enable them to get a group or raid off the ground a lot faster.
FERAL (BEAR) and FERAL (CAT PvE): NOW YOU SEE ME, NOW YOU DON'T
This is probably going to be a popular (if not most popular) dual-spec choice for raiding ferals. You sacrifice a lot of DPS in order to run a dedicated bear build, and a lot of mitigation and avoidance to run a dedicated cat build. On fights where you don't need to tank, you should be putting out as much damage as you possibly can, and on fights where you DO need to tank, there's no reason to make the healers' job harder that it already is. A prime example would be moving from Sapphiron to Kel'Thuzad in 25-man raids, or going from Malygos to a Sartharion with drakes up (provided that you haven't already lost your Sarth-tanking job to a voidwalker).
Pros: There's some amount of gear overlap here (more so once Savage Defense goes live and +crit becomes a hybrid stat) and if you've been playing feral for a while, you're probably accustomed to frequent switches between bear and cat already. A bear/cat dual spec basically gives you the opportunity to supercharge what you're already doing with minimal fuss.
Cons: Eh. I really can't see any. You'd have to be crazy to be feral and not have bear and cat sets already.
Filed under: Druid, Patches, Analysis / Opinion, Features, Raiding, Guides, (Druid) Shifting Perspectives, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Josh Feb 18th 2009 9:12AM
apart from being my favorite class in the game. Duel-spec should definitely be a huge plus for us druids.
cjshrader Feb 18th 2009 9:30AM
You got a memo from Voldemort?
tanek Feb 18th 2009 9:40AM
My first character in WoW was a Tauren Druid. I have since played a Rogue, a Shaman, and a Warlock, but have always come back to a Druid.
I am very much looking forward to dual-spec, but given so many choices I have no idea yet what my other spec will be. After being a tank for so long, do I want to try Balance DPS? Cat DPS? Healer? Finally make a PvP spec?
I'll probably spend lots of time and gold finding out what I want to do, but it should be a fun trip. :)
P.S. What happened to the "Dan O'Halloran will be writing a guide to gearing a Cat Druid next week"? I was looking forward to seeing the recommendations.
Allison Robert Feb 18th 2009 10:57AM
Hi Tanek - the guide on cat gear should be going live next week. With the new information on dual specs we thought it would be a bit more timely to provide some commentary on how to make the best use of it, but rest assured the kitty gear is on its way. :)
Wildmane Feb 18th 2009 9:46AM
"I enjoy playing a moonkin a lot more than I currently enjoy playing an extremely ugly cat.
On that note, a bear/moonkin spec would allow me to forget that Tauren cat form even exists, so...sign me up."
Oh god, not the same old overly mentoned tauren cat form appearance problem again, this is the only reason i sometimes hate reading Shifting Perspectives.
doesntraid Feb 18th 2009 9:49AM
To bad I dont raid or I might find this post useful. Why does everything have to be about raiding?
bmiller Feb 18th 2009 10:12AM
Currently, Dual spec is level 80 only, so the raiding angle in this article is appropriate.
Allison Robert Feb 18th 2009 11:02AM
Bmiller's correct -- the feature (for the moment) is level 80 only, so it doesn't apply to leveling Druids, and all of the information written was done so with an eye toward 5-man content as well. Actually, I'm still leaning heavily toward a Bear/Tree dual-spec that will find most of its benefit in running heroics (5-mans are still my favorite part of the game).
If you don't do much or any group content in the game, then dual-specs will mostly enable you to switch between the specs you find the most fun to play. No advice needed on that. :)
bdaneila Feb 18th 2009 9:50AM
I will almost certainly be dual-speccing between feral DPS and feral tank. I tend to be tanking for my guild in instances, heroics and 10 man raiding, but DPSing in 25 man raiding with our guild alliance.
The difference will be in swapping around a minority of talent points and in the glyphing.
Palatel Feb 18th 2009 10:12AM
T.S Eliot FTW.
And dr00ds, yeah...
Anyway, I play moonkin and am excited for dual-spec like everyone else. I also like to heal and want the ability to do son in the occasional raid. However, I would also love to be able to have a PvP moonkin spec I can switch from. Is this doable if I pay two of the one-time fees?
Allison Robert Feb 18th 2009 11:10AM
For now it looks like dual-specs will remain just the two, so you'll still have to pay to respec into a third build (but probably not pay to respec back into a build that's part of your allotted two specs). That kind of sucks, but dual specs will still cut down pretty heavily on frequent respec costs. My advice would be to determine whether you spend more money respeccing back and forth into a PvP build or resto and pick the one you'll save more gold on (if you respec most frequently between raids and have no particular compulsion to do so within them).
My current dilemma is that, while I would probably contribute more to my raids as a bear/moonkin, I spend the majority of my respec gold speccing between bear and tree. I would be surprised if a lot of Druids weren't in the same boat, but dual specs should still save a ton of gold.
RomanokeTiger Feb 18th 2009 10:30AM
In TBC I was feral dps. Once I leveled to 80 I thought I would give healing a try at the request of some. I acctually enjoy it but I do miss feral dps. I've kept a set going (I even picked up black Ice) so when duel specs hit I can now effectively do both.
Pere Feb 18th 2009 10:32AM
Thanks for this article, I'd actually been seriously debating what I should do for my feral once dual-spec comes out. At this point I'm gonna be leaning towards feral DPS and Tank. I love my kitty and his dps (and the fact that mine's a night elf means the cat isn't ugly), yet I still find myself asked to tank/offtank every once in a while, and switching over to a bear talent tree would definitely be a help, especially if I updated my bear set a bit.
Zali Feb 18th 2009 10:36AM
Oh dear me, this just can’t go unanswered. How can you say that The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock is T.S Elliot’s most famous poem, considering that Cats, one of the longest running Broadway musicals of all time, was based off of Elliot’s poems in Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats? When you couple that fact, with the fact that this is Shifting Perspectives, a column dedicated to a class which is capable of turning into a cat, it seems almost sacrilege.
Have you no shame young lady? Where is your class loyalty?
Groth Feb 18th 2009 11:08AM
There's plenty of class loyalty, its just tauren cat form is fugly.
Cyrus Feb 18th 2009 11:06AM
"Look at the potential return from Eclipse procs as a function of fight mobility?"
I'd like to see this article at some point, actually. It seems like I'm the only moonkin without Eclipse. I tried it for a while and I didn't get out my calculator to calculate percentages but it seemed like little or no increase in my dps, so I respecced out of it again. (Although, now that I think of it, that was during those weeks that Naxx was almost unplayably laggy...)
With the Starfire glyph, spamming Wrath means I have to refresh Moonfire earlier, which costs mana and a global cooldown. And Eclipse doesn't have a 100 percent chance to proc off Wrath, so I can't really count on leading off with Wraths and then switching to Starfire when Eclipse procs. It seems like those three talent points are better used elsewhere. Am I missing something?
AyaJulia Feb 18th 2009 11:09AM
My druid will be level 80 soon. I plan to make such good use of dual specs that I plan to make the druid a scribe, simply because I don't know whether a scribe will have to be present to summon the lexicon or what... and you just know they'll be outrageously priced anyway. ;)
I don't know what I'll do. I'm absolutely loving boomkin, which is how I'm leveling--there's something about a 3k starfire crit in hellfire that just makes me giggle. :) But what the guild needs, the guild will get. I might end up tank/boomkin, though, because we're actually lacking dedicated dps, believe it or not. :o
Anuine Feb 18th 2009 11:21AM
Dear fellow readers,
Could you please be careful to say "duAl spec", and not "duEl spec" ?
I think you all can struggle with such a thorny issue. (dual = double; duel = a fight between to people, usually for a matter of honor, but can be just to show others how awesome you are)
I'm actually pretty sure you can!
Thanks a lot.
Nathanyel Feb 19th 2009 8:11AM
Then again, many PvPers will have a BG spec and a "duel spec" (1on1 optimization, where possible)
What's up David? Feb 18th 2009 11:31AM
Have kept a boom and tank/feral sets since bc, nice to be able to switch em out as needed now. As far as eclipse Cyrus.. .I only put 1 point into it as I don't find it to be a big dps boost (or at least enough to warrant 3/3 and the spam rotation it takes to make it work)... I find that keeping up the IS/Mf and SF till it hits does more consistent dps than the other rotation to make eclipse work. That said, when the 1/3 procs I spam it like a rockstar..