WoW Rookie: Help!
New around here? WoW Rookie points WoW's newest players to the resources they need to get acclimated. Send us a note to suggest a WoW Rookie topic.Do you ask for help from other players in game? If you do, do the other players actually help out – or do they slam you for being a "stupid n00b"? Friendly reader Gisbon wrote in recently to say that while he enjoys helping new players, they don't always pick the best ways or times to ask.
Granted, today's in-game culture is a little different than it was back in the day. In the earliest days of the game, before game information was readily available on the web, players had to ask other players for help in game. If you were confused by a class mechanic, you'd find a higher-level player and send a few whispers. If you were lucky, you'd find someone with time to answer (most seemed to be willing) and at least point you in the right direction. Today, questions to random strangers can net you insults for being clueless – but you could strike gold, too, with some great insights and the beginnings of a new friendship or mentor relationship.
Look up simple facts yourself. Alt-tab out of the game so that you can open up your web browser. Most problems you'll hit during the leveling process – where to find something, what to do in a certain dungeon, tricks for an uncooperative quest – can be found on Wowhead or Wowwiki. Read WoW Rookie's guide to metagaming for even more resources.
Keep trying. We're going to go out on a limb and state the blatantly obvious: WoW is a game, and figuring out what to do is part of the fun. There's no need to frustrate yourself over technical settings or game mechanics you simply don't understand; in those situations, go ahead and ask someone to clue you in. But if you can't figure out where to find what a quest giver needs or how to beat a particular encounter, don't fold before you've given it a fair shake. Read the quest again. Look at all your spells and abilities, and consider tactics you haven't tried. If you're not sure what would happen if, then try. You'll become a better player (and have a lot more fun in the process!) if you turn the game into an exploration of your puzzle-solving abilities instead of a race to run quest parts from Point A to Point B.
Ask in the zone. Use the General /1 chat channel to ask for pointers on subjects pertinent to the zone. If you want to be taken seriously, use good grammar and spelling – no l337sp34k, plz! You're most likely to find someone who's working on the same quest and meet friends of a similar level by asking for help this way.
Pick the right person to ask. Use the /who command to look for higher-level players of your class or players who are in the zone you're having trouble with. You're most likely to find people with time to chat if you /whisper players who are traveling or in cities. The main thing to remember: don't send a random /whisper to someone who's in the middle of something requiring focus. Don't /whisper anyone who's in an instance (distracting someone at the wrong moment in an instance could literally cause a party or raid wipe). Don't /whisper someone doing an escort quest. Players who are farming for materials may be bored silly and interested in chatting, but they may have had a terribad day and want to chill out with some mindless, solitary grinding; either way, be polite.
Don't make assumptions. If someone helps you out once, don't assume they've given you an open credit line. If they've been especially friendly and helpful, ask if you can Friend them for future questions or help. If they seem uncomfortable, don't press matters.
Don't pester. If you've worked through every alternative you can think of yet are still at an impasse, don't add being a pest to your predicament. Don't whine in General chat, and don't pester individual players with repeated questions. If you can't get the answer or kill the beastie you need, move on to something else for the time being.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 5)
brucimus Feb 18th 2009 3:05PM
Why ask in trade? Just alt tab and look it up yourself? Wowhead.com has about every answer you could possibly want at your fingertips
Rohannor Feb 18th 2009 1:34PM
Also don't send blind Group Invites if you need quest help. It's generally considered rude (not to mention a bit jarring) to send someone a group invite if you haven't talked to them first.
It's an automatic decline for me, as I have no idea who you are or what you want to group for.
Kaorael Feb 18th 2009 1:58PM
The same goes for me. No matter what I'm doing, if I see a random group invite I'll decline it. You may be the player right in front of me, but I usually play with nameplates turned off, so I won't know. Please ask first in /say or /whisper if I want to group with you and help with something. Only then I'll consider it, and it is never a sure yes, even if you ask politely. I'll reply with the same level of politeness as you asked, but I may decline if I'm not in the mood or I'll be leaving the area soon.
Balmer Feb 18th 2009 3:01PM
This too is True!
I also suggest not sending blind Guild Invites or forceing a Guild chart in someone face.
I can't tell you the number of times I have been standing at the auctioneer and had some rude person shove their guild charter at me, and that of course closes the auction window.
Kiliani Feb 18th 2009 5:32PM
I have a mod that automatically declines group invites from people who aren't in my guild or on my friends list unless I have spoken to them in a tell recently (Anti-invite). I don't even get a pop-up to choose whether to decline.
I downloaded it during the phase when gold sellers had level 1 warriors spamming people with invites to get them into a raid where they'd spam their gold selling ads... but kept it after that trend ended because of this very thing. If I'm passing through an area where you're questing, or even questing there myself, I am NEVER going to accept a group invite unless you tell me what it's for.
The only times when I don't like it involve long-respawn time mobs that I need to kill or escort for a quest, and someone else is about to do the same quest. If they shoot me an invite and see it auto-decline, they usually don't take the time to wait for me to send them a tell to try again before starting. :P
But yeah, invite spam and guild charter spam, very irritating. Learn to talk to people before inviting them to ANYTHING. :P
McRaider Feb 18th 2009 1:34PM
4 years ago, if you knew something, you should have let the whole world know. Now if you don't know something, you are a n00b...
Andostre Feb 18th 2009 1:42PM
Heh.
'OP' can be used in two different ways. In comments and forums, it often stands for "Original Poster," where someone is referring to the first commenter or poster in a thread.
In-game, it often stands for "Overpowered," usually in reference to an unbalanced class or tradeskill.
Andostre Feb 18th 2009 1:43PM
That was supposed to be directed at lodcan. The "Reply" button didn't take, again.
lodcan Feb 18th 2009 1:45PM
Thanks I got it!
Moody Loner Feb 18th 2009 1:42PM
Generally, I will be very happy to help you. if:
1. You do not immediately invite me to group without saying anything.
2. You don't follow my DK around demanding to be run through AQ40. Especially if you just whisper "AQ40 now plz". Especially if you keep following me around going "AQ40 AQ40 AQ40 AQ40 AQ40"
3. I am usually playing early in the morning before I've had coffee or in the evening when I'm exhausted from work. Complimenting my toon's breasts may not be the icebreaker you'd hoped.
4. I will be happy to help you with money issues. This will generally fall along the lines of discussing gathering professions and good places to find nodes. I will not give you money.
5. Contrariwise, although my record of earning gold is lackluster at best, I am not so desperate as to take my shirt off or gold. My toons are all wearing underwear anyway. Try Second Life.
6. Please for the love of the Light and your hope of salvation and rebirth, at least attempt to spell correctly and use reasonable grammar. If English is not your language, say so.
Yeah, wall of text. Reading is good for you.
Moody Loner Feb 18th 2009 1:44PM
"off for gold"
Tanj dammit, and I previewed and everything.
zappo Feb 18th 2009 1:44PM
My thinking is that you should probably let someone know you are new to the game. This will get you a LOT more sympathy. We all had to start somewhere, so starting out a tell with "Excuse me, but I am new to the game..." will go a long way. Generally I find people pestering me with questions rather annoying because it is often the case that they are lazy or simply can't seem to make decisions themselves - and apparently want me to tell them what to do.
I've also helped people out on the official forums but few seem to like that option. I'd actually recommend using your realm's forums, not the class one.
Branch Feb 18th 2009 1:45PM
1. Being polite does work, the response to "Hi, do you mind if i ask you a question?" has always been "Sure what can i help you with."
2. Don't ask for Gold, people don't mind giving their time, but asking for gold is rude and always ignored.
3. Help is a 2 way street, even though you are a rookie you might have completed a quest recently that someone asks about in general chat. If you expect answers to your questions, respond when you can help someone else out.
Vandel Feb 18th 2009 2:21PM
I discovered the addon lightheaded right before wrath release. I never used any questhelper style addons while leveling toons before, but lightheaded is great, refer to it if you want, and there are ususally great descriptions of how do to a quest, not just points on your map where to find things.
I combined it with TomTom, a coordinates addon that allows you to click on the coords given in the lightheaded window and sets waypoints on your mini map and regular map.
worked for me.
Bob Dewane Feb 18th 2009 1:47PM
I was rarely ever whispered with questions about questing, specs, etc. Since building my chopper I get whispers all the time asking for rides. Those who are polite and ask if they can have a ride when I'm done with whatever I'm doing will get one. Those who are jerks about it (one guy even said to me "Hey mount up again and invite so I can ride, k?" ) get nothing.
P.S. If you REALLY want a ride in the chopper ask someone in Dal or Storm Peaks. The most fun I have with the chopper is that you can jump from the top of the tallest thing you can find and not die/take damage. My personal favorite place to jump is from the top of the REALLY tall mountain near K3 all the way to the bottom of the Pit of the Makers. I always wish I could be standing on the ground nearby and see a motorcycle fall out of the sky and go straight into the ground. =P
FlameFlash Feb 18th 2009 1:48PM
I help whenever I can because I can.
Because that's what happened when I was a noob.
I remember doing some questing with some people in Redridge on my main back in the day, it was a strong group, "Hey, wanna go run gnomer?" they asked.
"Sure!"
They switch to THIER mains and I find myself being run through (with one other noob) by two level 60 somethings and a 70.
At the end of it the 70 even offered to buy me my mount when I hit 40.
I remember so worriedly whispering him when I hit 40 just to ask if he was still willing. He had been, and low and behold I got it that way.
I've returned the favor a few times now as on alts when a fun group perhaps falls apart in the middle of gnomer. I just come in with my main and we clear it in no time.
Then my wife runs my alt through later. ;)
Do ask politely though. /2 with a polite question is often a good bet. I've noticed some post "Could a high level [insert class] help me with a question real fast?" on Trade. I liked that method gives the upper levels the opportunity to opt in rather than you just bugging a high level.
rilem Feb 18th 2009 2:52PM
trasken said: "Sooo... whenever I come across a new player I tend to give 'em a good amount of gold to start off with and help if they need it ..."
Somebody did this for me when I started last year -- just a couple gold, actually, but also a couple bags they'd made, which was HUGE -- and helped me through a couple quests I was stuck on. Really helped me get into the game.
automator Feb 18th 2009 1:50PM
The "open line" mention hit me.
Ages ago, I helped out a wee warlock. That turned into a whisper multiple times a day for the next months asking for a run through this or that instance.
Vandar Feb 18th 2009 1:51PM
I was totally bored the other night so I went out to Westfall and put the word out in General chat that I was offering free Deadmines runs to the first two players to whisper me. I even gave them rides on my mammoth. I have no problem helping people. We were all noobs once and a little karma goes a long way and you never know if you may be helping the low lvl alt of someone from an uber raiding guild who will return the favor in some way.
Zeplar Feb 18th 2009 1:54PM
Do not spam me asking for a run through Gnomeregan or Deadmines for 5 gold. I will run you through deadmines if I am ridiculously bored, or taking a friend at the same time. Five gold is like one kill to me.