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2-20-2009 @ 4:07PM
How many reasonably geared (entry 80 raiding) people does it take for TBC 25man raids?
2-20-2009 @ 4:09PM
Reasonably geared? 25.
2-20-2009 @ 4:10PM
Oh wait, TBC, I read that wrong. Well...it depends, really. TBC content is a bit different than blowing through MC or BWL, however, you -can- blow through it, provided you know the tricks. I'd say minimum of 15 or so, if you're reasonably geared, 20 if things look shaky.
2-20-2009 @ 4:13PM
Did you notice he said lvl 80? I would also really like to know this question.
2-20-2009 @ 4:19PM
A decent geared prot paladin and a holy paladin can make it through 5-6 waves of the beginning of Mount Hyjal before getting overrun. You might want to bring more if you want to actually beat it.
2-20-2009 @ 4:54PM
@Koopatroopa ...did you bother reading the next comment I posted, immediately after posting the first? I amended my response and answered the question.
2-20-2009 @ 5:02PM
My guild went into BT blind two weeks ago (ie, had never been there, didn't really bother reading any strats) and got to Teron Gorefiend with only one wipe (when someone accidntally talked to Akama). We had 18 people when we started, 22 when we finished, and three of those were 70-74. We took down Doomreaver with 15 people. Great fun.
2-20-2009 @ 5:06PM
I have acutally been going back and doing quite a few TBC raids. We usually take about 15-20 people if they are all level 80. We do take people that are in the 70s yet, so that they have the opportunity to experience the raids, gear, and get more experience with raiding. Though, I have noticed that we don't usually take more than we need to TK (everyone wants the mount).I actually find running Karazhan rather fun with my normal 10-man (near full T7) raiding group. We can blow through there rather quickly, and actually make a good chunk of money in the process. The last time we ran it together, we had one group on Maiden, while the other was on Moroes...fun stuff.
2-20-2009 @ 5:16PM
Kael requires at least 15 well geared 80s I'd say.1 of them pretty much has to be a prot warrior.You need a warlock or mage to tank the mage, 2-3 tanks for the weapons, a hunter in there for the bow, and 3-5 people to grab daggers and use them on people getting the MC on them. If not for that last part, it would be possible with less. But you really need them working on it because when the wrong person gets MCed, it is very bad. A'lar needs at least 4 tanks. You just can't get around the platforms fast enough and someone needs to tank the adds.I'd think Vashj would require about as many due to the sheer ground to cover. The rest of SSC would be fairly easy.Kara: Got a healer and tank? Go do kara. If you have a dps, even better. If you take 10 people and 4 of them are under level 74 ( 2 were level 68) you can still kill Prince before a second infernal lands.Grull needs 6 or so. Mage tank is still nice, normal tank, healers for both, a boomkin or 2 hunters, 1-2 warlocks and a DPS + a healer or two for the raid. Yes, 1 to 2 healers is about fine considering. Thats for HKM, for Grull, you can do it with 3 I am betting. Heck a rogue could do it with 5 at 70.MH would need 2-3 tanks, 2-3 healers and at least 1 hunter. You'd want at least 4 dps I'd say. So 10 minimum to clear everything up to archimonde. With his enrage timer I'd say you'd like a few more than that.BT is a whole other ball game. A lot of those fights are about juggling adds, multiple tanks, and not standing in fire. Though shadow resist is probably not needed much anymore.Sunwell....Someone familiar with that should better explain that. My guess is still around 20 people.
2-20-2009 @ 6:01PM
Sunwell can be done with 15, but they need to have been there before, the fights are still just a little too complex and punishing to mistakes to just try to pug it.
2-20-2009 @ 6:20PM
Just a quick note, A'lar can be done with two tanks, doing a lot of coordination. Preferably a druid to use cat form to get around faster or DK with unholy presence but any tank can do it.
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