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2-23-2009 @ 8:05AM
When too tired to continue would be the time to call it.In general, people feel less tired when playing, so by the time they start feeling it, they're realy tired (and probably making mistakes because of it)
2-23-2009 @ 8:14AM
when it becomes clear that your current group will be incapable of completing the encounter, whether through fatigue, boredom, inexperience, or incompetence, it's time to call it. Sometimes a single raider can be the difference between your seventh twilight mount and a night of 200 gold repair bills. part of your job as a raid leader is to determine:1 what needs to change from what you've been doing to what you need to do to clear the encounter.2 whether the group you have can make those changes3 whether you can replace anyone who would prevent you from making those changes.You call it when you don't have any way to down the boss at the time.
2-23-2009 @ 8:26AM
@ Jesse^This.Wipe count doesn't factor into the decision. If its clear that the boss can drop and people have the time and attention span you do another attempt.If its clear the boss won't go down you call it, especially on farm content.If its a progression boss and you know the boss won't go down, you keep the attempts going so everyone will learn the fight better. Even then after a couple wipes it will be time to throw in the towel.
2-23-2009 @ 10:03AM
I disagree with the 'you call it when its clear the boss wont go down' technique.I know many kills my guild has had on Sarth 3D that happen right after 2-3 attempts of utter failure. If we had called it when things looked bleak, I doubt we would ever have gotten him down.I would say this, you call it whenever you are scheduled to stop raiding, or barely after that if you are very close. Wipe all night if you have to, but don't stop at 10 when you are scheduled to go until 12.
2-23-2009 @ 11:12AM
there's a difference between 2-3 wakeup wipes, and 2-3 "you seriously can't dodge a void zone?" wipes.if you have raiders to replace the void zone zombies, you swap em out and keep going. if you can't swap out the people having a bad night, and they can't get it in gear, it's pointless to waste time that people could be spending with their families and gold that will have to be farmed to replace it.
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