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2-23-2009 @ 8:10AM
I'd say one of two moments:- Make a fixed endtime for every raid, when you reach that simply stop. This also creates the nice addition of the 'Famous Last Attempts' that are sometimes the first kills.- Once a number of attempts (2-3 in a row depending on your patience) seem to not gain momentum but seem to loose it more. Have a 5 minute break and ask every raider to use that break to step away from the computer. Then try it again 2-3 times. Sometimes simply stepping away for a moment can refresh the raid more then anything. If even after that it still goes bad, then call it.that's my 2 copper at least.
2-23-2009 @ 8:46AM
Breaktime is a good idea, we've never done it formally but I might suggest that to my guild leaders for future stuff.
2-23-2009 @ 9:18AM
that sounds like my guild.
2-23-2009 @ 11:14AM
This.We're casual and with that frame of mind comes distinct limits on what we will and will not do within the bounds of raiding. It took some misfires to get people to understand that "casual" does not mean you bum pots or food off fellow raiders or show up at 60% durability. "Casual" means we don't raid every night nor do we raid for 4+ hours or until our eyes bleed. We show up on time, ready to go. We raid for up to 3 hours. If we reach a point at which a boss or encounter, and let's face it, sometimes trash pulls can get the best of you, wipes us 3 times, we ask for people's opinions on whether they want to continue. If a raid is going well, we will ask when 3 hours approaches and the instance is not complete, whether they wish to push on or come back the next day. We have fun but we're serious about learning fights and downing mobs/bosses. We are also mindful that our guild members are from all time zones in the US and Canada AND from Australia. A 3 hour raid can mean we end at midnight on the US East Coast or, to make sure our tank can stay because he's leaving at 10 EST, starting at 7 a.m. in Australia on a Monday morning. So far, our approach works. Not everyone can make every raid so we try to vary when we run things so all guild members have the chance to see all content. We just don't think anyone benefits when the raid goes and goes and goes and the boss still won't die and you keep wiping at 5%. Most of the time, 3 strikes or 3 hours and we're out.
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