Skip to Content
3-01-2009 @ 12:17PM
I agree with your last paragraph. I feel like it would be too convoluted, even for Blizzard, to put THAT many slave-loops into the story. Ner'zhul himself has been under Legion control, then he controlled Arthas, now another control element? I hope not.My feeling on the matter is that the Lich King we're dealing with right now is almost purely Ner'zhul, and that the only Arthas left is the body. I keep thinking of a Majora's Mask-style multi-phase fight, where we'll first kill the body and spirit together, then the spirit in the mask a few times (maybe with the real Arthas's help, or maybe he's as good as a dead hollowed-out shell now). Who knows, though. :)
3-01-2009 @ 12:36PM
As far as the Lich King fight will go, it will be a complete translation of the Headless Horseman fight. You beat up the body, the helm falls off, Arthas stumbles around blindly like an idiot while Ner'zuhl spits insults at him from the floating head piece.XD
3-01-2009 @ 1:00PM
That'd actually be pretty cool, having the different elements of the Lich King present in the fight and changing as we go. I just highly doubt it'll be some sort of redemption fight for him, though. Blizzard has made Arthas the main enemy and I can't see them suddenly being like... "Go save his soul!"
3-01-2009 @ 1:11PM
Though it can be no coincidence that the cave where frostmourne was discovered is utterly bristling with Saronite.Whatever the connection is to Yogg-Saron it's a complex one for sure.
3-01-2009 @ 1:37PM
"I can't see them suddenly being like... 'Go save his soul!'"No, especially considering....<SPOLIER, SCROLL PAST THIS COMMENT if you haven't done Icecrown quests and don't want them ruined>There's a quest in Icecrown in which you take the Argent Crusade AND the Ebon Blade into battle with the Lich King. Tirion says, to his face, that as much as he'd like to redeem him... there is no soul left to save. This is at the end of a long chain with the ghostly child "Matthias Lehner," an anagram for Arthas Menethil, which shows the progression of the Lich King after we leave him in WC3. I felt like that disembodied child-soul was all that remained of Arthas, and I'm still not sure the Argent Crusade knows the truth about Ner'zhul.
3-01-2009 @ 5:42PM
In regards to the current form of the Lich King, it's a perfect blending of both Ner'zhul and Arthas. There is a quest giver on the Alliance ship (and I forget his name or the name of the quest, but it's the Death Knight guy) who tells you "Any information we can gain will be of use... The Lich King has two of the most cunning minds here." This hints to me that Arthas has given up all semblance of humanity, and mortality and given himself fully to being the Lich King as Ner'zhul/Arthas. While still imprisoned in the frozen throne, Ner'zhul corrupted Arthas, then made him his champion, and in WC3x, with the events leading up to the battle at Icecrown, the Lich King couldn't control his servants, yet Arthas still served him and was able to act and think for himself, well enough to reach Icecrown, beat the blindfold off of Illidan, etc (Granted, he was carrying Frostmourne at the time, which was/is a part of the armor Ner'zhul was bound to, no doubt granting him some remaining control over Arthas)In fact, once Arthas reached Icecrown, the Lich King GAVE all of his remaining power, except for what he needed to keep existing, to Arthas, so that Arthas could beat Illidan and reach him. That shows a level of trust that doesn't happen between Master and Slave, and I think shows just how much Ner'zhul valued Arthas as, maybe not an equal, but as a very loyal subordinate. And I think it would be a fair assumption he would still be valued and would have, not an equal share in the Lich King mind, but wouldn't be completely consumed.
3-01-2009 @ 9:38PM
It's been stated many a times by guys like Metzen, Arthas and Ner'zhul have fused perfectly into a single being.And they've also stated that they don't want to do a redemption story with him, because it would be cliche like Darth Vader. That's the whole point of the Tirion's Gambit questline, where Tirion holds out hope that Arthas' discarded hard can be used for redemption, but in the end concludes that Arthas can't be saved and destroys the heart.
First time? A confirmation email will be sent to you after submitting.
Members enter your username and password.
Enter your AOL or AIM screenname and password.
Please keep your comments relevant to this blog entry. Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments.
When you enter your name and email address, you'll be sent a link to confirm your comment, and a password. To leave another comment, just use that password.
To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br /> tags.