Honestly, are we suposed to feel any sort of sympathy for the chose Pallies?

Sorry your cant top DPS charts, sorry. I really am.

Sorry Pally is the best tank in the game. Sorry.

Sorry Pally is the best healer in the game. Sorry.

Sorry you cant be the best class for every single situation. Sorry.

I have had it with Pally QQ. you're the chosen class everyone wants to be.

Do you see Rogues and Mages crying that they cant heal or tank?

Im getting real sick of people feeling entitled to be OP in every tree. Wanna top DPS chart, roll a Mage. Im not interested in you plate wearing, healers, with tank mechanics mad that they cant faceroll through the game.

/delete class

Oh stuff it jerzz

My wife's disc priest can keep a tank up as well as a holy paladin in similar gear. When holy they can yawn through vortex. Healing through Loken is much easier with ANY healer over a paladin.

We still use a warrior for our main tank because he can do the job and do it well. Go ask progression guilds what they use for 10 man Sarth+3. Most will say DK or Bear for Sarth himself. Heck, a demon is a better tank than a paladin for that.


Ret was a joke spec, leveling was about the only reason to use it. So it had crappy DPS and somehow people were supposed to be okay with a class that can't do damage well at all?

They finally make it pretty good but they don't listen to people. Ret paladins said "Our scaling will not be great if you nerf us to the ground." They had almost all their talents done at 70. The last 10 levels had no DPS increasing talents. So people complain about balance for a class that hit the ceiling before they did and Blizzard listened.

Ret damage is low. I see them try to DPS and they lag behind. Unless they are decked out in BIS all over and good, they are well behind a DK that is any good in mediocre gear.

@jerzz80 we don't want to top every chart, we just want to be at least decent, because of your comments im rightly telling you to shut up hell up - dont like it /deleteaccount

@jerzz80

How many mages want to tank to begin with? The playstyle of the class, along with the lore, the design, all of these things factor into a reason to play. What if you want to be a righteous DPS instead of a lol13yearold undead "rouge", or a bounce bounce bounce cloth wearing nelf.

BTW, having interest in lore and character is different then LOLRP if you're going to make that argument.

@Jerzz

"you're the chosen class everyone wants to be. "

Anyone else LMAO in real life?

No kid, you are thinking of Death Knights.

Paladins are the class everyone struggles to play because Blizzard lacks a f'ing clue.

Next time, pick the Sugar Free cereal for breakfast, kk?

@jerzz80

*Standing Clap*

Well said and someone had to say it. Pallies have had it too easy for far too long. You still can't kill one, you still can't get a better tank than one, you still can't get a better healer than one, and for a short time you could not gett a better DPSer than one. It was the perfect OP class and everyone was rerolling one, until they saw the nerf hammer starting to swing. Now its just the healing and tanking that are OP.

Pallie tank and Pallie healer = win....every time.

So now the pure classes (Rogues, Warlocks, Mages, Hunters, Priests and Death knights) are starting to make a comeback and Pallies cry and cry. Well get over it you still have two trees you can be awesome in...so go be awesome in those!

I don't necessarily agree with Jerz completely, but honestly, if they had a class that could competently perform the tasks of 3 different roles in the game, what would be the point of having 10 different classes? If everyone rolled a druid or a paladin, what would be the point of rogues, priests, warriors, or mages? Sorry, your DPS tree sucks for PVP/PVE/farming/whatever. Either learn a different tree or re-roll.

/Boomkin PVE+Feral PVP

@bundee

"Competently"? One or two trees from every hybrid should just be worthless at one aspect of the game, huh? Every class should be at least "competent" or "adequate but not exceptional" -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/competent -- or maybe just able to compete at every role in PVE/PVP. Not everyone can or should be the best, but no tree should be laughed out of a raid or BG, if spec'd for that role.

Your design view is boring at best and Blizzard agrees, since they don't want Arms to be the only Warrior PVP tree, for example.

Wasn't it druids as well as pallies who were told to shut up and heal back in the day?