Interview: Jame of WoW-Pro
Jame is someone whose work I've enjoyed for much of my WoW-playing career. For those of you who might not be familiar with the name, he is the author of a series of leveling guides hosted over at WoW-Pro, which currently cover levels 30 to 77 on both factions (the rest of Northrend will be coming soon). Most recently, he's posted an addon version of the guides, so you can play along without even having to tab out. And did I mention this is all free?
I recently got the opportunity to interview Jame on his guides, how he plays, and what he thinks of recent changes. Come on behind the cut to find out what he had to say.
Eliah: Does the fact that your guides provide such a boost in leveling speed mean that Blizzard designed the quests/zones badly? Shouldn't it be easier than it is for the unguided player to make their way through the zones without having to double back and run all over the place?
Jame: Actually, it proves just the opposite. It shows that there IS a better way to do it, a more efficient, faster and more rewarding way. Every zone is like a puzzle, and there is always a perfect way to clear that puzzle, the quest designers at blizzard do a great job at that. All you have to do is find the matching pieces and put them together in the right order ;)
I think the leveling game would be very plain and boring if there was only one path each player could take. After all, we all play the game to have fun, but also to excel at it, to try to be better than the other players. If from 1 to 80 there was only one path to take, without any room for doing it better than other players, what would be the point of leveling? Might as well let us all create level 80 characters right of the bat.
So no, I definitely think WoW leveling is great as it is. I'd even go as far as saying that they should make it a little more challenging in the quest department. Put more hidden quests in each zone, which require you to do several other quests to unlock them, and make them very rewarding for the players who go trough the trouble of figuring them out.
Well, I think we should be able to create level 80 characters off the bat, but that's a separate topic.
As someone who's been using your guides for a long time, I feel like you've gotten a lot better at writing them over the months/years. What are some of the lessons you've learned on how to write a better guide, and do you have any tips to share with others who might want to write guides?
There are so many things I've changed since my first leveling guide. I've definitely learned a lot of lessons, too many for me to list them all here, but here are the main ones:
Getting started:
- Open Wowhead and check where are all the quest givers in the zone
- Log in and check them all, see which quests can be grabbed right as you enter the zone, and which are locked.
- Complete every quest in the zone, take notes as you go. Which quests could be paired up, which quests are close to each other, etc.
- Bring your second character to the zone and start writing the guide for real this time.
- When you're not sure which way to start, use your intuition and just go for it. At some point you'll find out if your circuit can be improved or not. There's a lot of going back and forth and fixing mistakes while writing a guide. You almost never get it right on the first try.
How to make your guide more readable:
- Shrink the information to a minimum, try to make it so that 1 step = 1 line of text. It's makes for a much easier reading speed.
- 5 steps max on the same map. Having to scroll back up to check the map is annoying and wastes time. So basically, try to make it so that the map and all of its steps can fit on one page, without having to scroll up or down.
- Text formating. Set a few rules and stick to them. Like for example, use a color code for each type of information (Orange for quests, Blue for NPCs, etc). It will make your guide so much easier to follow.
- List every quest that needs to be accepted or turned in. Avoid stuff like "Go back to Darkshire, turn in all quests, get all follow ups". People tend to mess up every time there's such a step. If you list every quest, they never do.
- Learn how to use image editing programs such as Photoshop or GIMP (freeware). You don't need any of the advanced stuff, just the easy features such as "Drop Shadow" and "Stroke / Contour".
- Keep the image sizes down to the minimum. Big images which take half the screen are not necessary, they just clog space and make your guide less printer-friendly. So shrink the image down to the minimum, as long as its easily recognizable it's fine.
- Find a nice community ready to test your guide and give you feedback. That's the only way to work towards a perfect guide :)
Wow, that was quite an answer!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Nesus Mar 5th 2009 7:10PM
"Every zone is like a puzzle, and there is always a perfect way to clear that puzzle"
So true
AyaJulia Mar 5th 2009 7:11PM
Jame is awesomeness incarnate. We all appreciate the work you do on your guides and addons. :D But be sure to take some time off for yourself, too.
mike Mar 5th 2009 7:21PM
Props to Jame - took all my alts to 60, 70 and then 80...wow without jame would be like bread without jam... wait
Ugkul Mar 5th 2009 10:06PM
Yes his leveling guides are great. Not sure why people go out and spend money on those crap leveling guides which are prob outdated anyway.
yaja Mar 5th 2009 11:25PM
yeah, James owns. I leveled up many a character following his guides. for 70-80, I've been using questhelper on most of my chars, but those early levels still belong to James!
Aaron A. Mar 6th 2009 3:01PM
Have you seen the add-on version of his guides? It gives you a checklist at the top of your screen, which automatically updates when you pick quests up, turn them in, or complete the objectives, and a Crazy Taxi-style arrow directing you to your next objective.
They've even worked most of the comments, tricks, and tips into the add-on, so you rarely ever need to tab over to the Web-based guide. I couldn't say how much time that saves me, but I'd bet it really adds up over the course of 50-80 levels.
Basic Mar 5th 2009 11:59PM
James guides are fine if you want to clear all the content from Hellfire to Nagrand, and then go from Fjord to Hills.
However I find, especially with the Outlands guide that there are many quests that do not deserve my attention. I suppose after leveling enough 70's I should write my own Outlands leveling guide.
Aaron A. Mar 6th 2009 2:52PM
There are several good reasons to clear all the content in one zone before moving to another:
* it cuts down on travel time
* there are often synergies between the quests offered at different quest hubs within the same zone, so you can knock them out at the same time
* by clearing HFP and Zangarmarsh (or, in Northrend, BT and HF), you'll be over-leveled for the quests in Terokkar and Nagrand (DB and GH); since quest EXP doesn't decrease until you're seven levels above the quest's level, you should be able to finish those green quests quickly, and still get full quest EXP. The later zones' yellow or orange quests will take far more time, for the same or only slightly higher EXP.
Jame has put plenty of research into these guides. That's why the Zul'Drak guide has been so long coming; he has to explore the content on his own, write a draft, test it, rewrite, and retest, measuring and recording his EXP/hour as he goes. Then he has to do it all over again for the other faction. You might be able to write a guide showcasing the easiest and most interesting quests in Outland, but I doubt you could beat his guides on pure speed.
Basic Mar 13th 2009 4:15PM
You make the incorrect assumption that I have not followed James' guides. If you're sitll not paying attention, I have followed Jame's guide TO THE LETTER on at least 4 characters and I see room for marking many quests skippable. Skipping all of HFP or Zang would be stupid. Don't pretend I'm recommending that path.
Tell me what quests optimize with "Smooth as Butter" - gathering gears? No. You can easily collect all the required parts for the gears and have maybe 4 buzzard wings.
There are many other quests like this where one quest's completion always lags far far behind the others. Leveling guides are *primarily* for speed and quality of rewards. Jame's guides are 100% coverage of Outland zones and that does not mean they are the fastest. His classic WoW guides are much better, they lead you through very specific zones and pick up exactly the synergy you need to reach 59 quickly.
uncaringbear Mar 6th 2009 4:51AM
I am a full-time altaholic, and Jame's guides have been fantastic for getting both my horde and ally toons to max level. They are well-written and concise.
Ok, this is kinda odd, but I've often wondered about the background of Jame's name, in particular, the fact that there is no 's' at the end of his name.
choc Mar 6th 2009 11:07AM
if i am to quit wow again, it will be these annoying quests and levels.
Blake Mar 6th 2009 11:51AM
Great interview. I just started a shaman a few weeks ago and have been using James' guides and they are amazing. Thanks for all the great work on the guides!
Toliman Mar 11th 2009 9:35PM
The TourGuide addon, from tekkub is a pre-requisite necessary to get the jame's levelling guides to work.
props should also go to tekkub who helped fill in the original tourguide files for zones 1-70 way back last year, and then left it up to the community to develop northrend guides, but also gave them the tools to do so.
TourGuide is a very light, easy system to get to grips with in any case, you just tick the boxes in the options page for tourguide to enable jame's guides, and they just work.
people who want to add guides can also install the tourguide-recorder, turn that on, and send their own progress in a zone to the more regular editors/authors who can make the more human decisions, combine routes, add in extra sets of co-ords for spawn points, suggest times to hearth back instead of the long, long trek back to the questgiver, add in quest comments, advice, etc.
incidentally, wowmatrix now recognises the addons, so that's a great help for promoting/getting attention to people who don't read... wowinsider. (ahem), but want the latest updates. curse/wowinterface might be amenable, but i don't follow those sites.