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3-06-2009 @ 6:26PM
if anyone says "first" now, they should have their account banned from WI...on another note, holy paladins are pretty OP in pvp (i play a holy paladin as a main) but i dont think they need pve nerfs... we're solid (a lot better than we were in BC) but I dont think the divine plea nerf should've made it close to unusable by a holy pally... im still geting beat on the meters by priests in lesser gear because of our lack of flexibility and i hate that... and i know my class very well (so stop it with the L2P.. please)anyways i like the love prot is geting ^^
3-06-2009 @ 6:29PM
But holy paladins are completely OP in PvE. You really do need to learn to play.
3-06-2009 @ 6:46PM
Gotta agree with Manatank here. My main spec is Prot, I go Ret if we have enough tanks online, and I only go Holy if we're going to call the raid for lack of healers, and I routinely outheal everyone else in the raid, regardless of class, and manage to be near the bottom on overhealing as well. Understanding your class, watching for procs, and casting in the right order at the right time, combined with proper use of trinkets and cooldowns turns paladins into healing juggernauts. No one else can drop a guaranteed 25k+ in less than 2.5 seconds. Now if you're still playing like it's BC and just spamming Flash with the occasionally HL, not using shields, not using flashes properly, and gearing for MP5, then yeah, you're gonna lose on the meters. But properly played pallies are completely unbeatable in PvE healing.
3-06-2009 @ 6:47PM
"not using flashes properly"SHOCKS! I meant not using SHOCKS properly. Stupid brain goes faster than my fingers.
3-06-2009 @ 7:02PM
Why don't you post some WWS so everyone can see what you other healers are doing wrong? I'm sorry holy pallies have a shot at the top of the meters.
3-06-2009 @ 7:04PM
That's because you're retarded and looking at meters. The only meter that matters for healer is the number of deaths meter.
3-06-2009 @ 7:21PM
Actually, meters are pretty reliable if you know how to read them. "Number of deaths meter" only matters if you're the only healer, it doesn't show whether or not the other healers are picking up your slack.If you look at healing meters on two equally geared people, and one does 2M healing with 50% overheal and the other does 1.5M with 33% overheal, they're healing for the same amount. The guy with higher total healing is either dropping bigger heals or healing just a little bit too late. Those guys are both probably doing their job well.If you have two equally geared healers and one does 5M healing with 80% overheal and the other does 2M healing with 50% overheal they are both healing for the same amount. but the first guy is a spammer and will not last into harder content healing the way he is. He will start to go OOM and is not healing effectively anyway since most of his heals are either taking too long to land or are being cast WAY too early and landing before the damage is taken.I could go into multiple scenarios for different situations, but the point is meters DO matter, if you know how to read them. They can tell you who is healing whom, what spells they are using, how often they are using them, and whether they are using them at the right times and in the right sequence.To give a more anecdotal example, when I check my meters at the end of the night after having to heal, my top three healing spells are Flash, Beacon, and Holy Shock, in that order, and roughly equal percentages. I end up first on the overall meter with about 20% overhealing done and I rarely drop below 40% mana. my partner in crime is an old-school Holy Pally. His top 3 spells are Holy Light, Beacon, and Flash, with Holy Light taking up about 65% of his total healing. he ends up 3rd or 4th on the meters overall, with around 50% overhealing, and has to drink after every other pull. I can determine all of this information via meters.So saying "OMG n00b meters are gay" is about as stupid as saying "Holy pallies are underpowered."
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