Ask a Lore Nerd: It's the end of the world as we know it
Welcome to Ask a Lore Nerd, where each week blogger and columnist Alex Ziebart answers your questions about the lore and history of the World of Warcraft. Ask your questions in the comments section below, and we'll try to answer it in a future edition.Good morning, everyone! My apologies for missing last week's Ask a Lore Nerd, I am apparently very, very bad at time management and I lost track of things while trying to finish furnishing my apartment. We're back in action this week though, so it's all good!
Before we get started, I also wanted to remind people that Tokyopop is letting us read Warcraft: Legends for free until the 17th. I know Daniel mentioned it already this morning, but seeing as this is the lore column of the day, I just wanted to mention it again. Just imagine me as the hammer trying to drive this nail into your head. You can read it for free. And now we get the show on the road!
naixdra asked...
Why do the Orcs call Draenor, Draenor? Didn't the Draenei show up out of nowhere and call it that, so why would the native Orcs adopt the name given to it by outsiders (and still refer to it after their attempted annihilation of said outsiders)?
The Orcs never gave Draenor a name. It was just where they lived. It was home. Giving their planet a name never even crossed their minds. The Draenei gave it a name, and it became the accepted norm when that information became important. When they started interacting with beings from other worlds, that's when they needed a name for where they come from. The Draenei called it Draenor, and it just stuck.
Even outside of the game, sentient species don't have a very interesting track record for naming their home planet. We named our planet Earth (or Terra if you prefer). We are basically calling it 'big floaty rock.' If by some miracle we met another sentient species and we shared the same language, they'd be all, "What the hell, that's what you named your planet? Really?"
AlexW573 asked...
On the east edge of the Sons of Hodir town, there is a big frozen giant in a throne. Who is/was he?
That's Arngrim, a former King of the Sons. He gives the quest Feeding Arngrim at Revered with the Sons of Hodir. He is very hungry.
Siona asked...
It seems like generally all, if not most, of the Argent Dawn/Crusade members are paladins, or at least worship the Light in some way. And given that a lot of non-Paladin-class races -- Orcs, Gnomes, Trolls -- etc are also part of them, could it then be conceived that we'll someday see an Orc Paladin or something like that in that group's future? Is it even feasibly possible for non Human/Dwarf/Draenei/Blood Elf races to be able to use the Light? I know Forsaken are out of the picture, due to their Scourge-i-ness, but how about the other races?
More and more Blizzard has been pushing the point that anybody can wield the Light if they're faithful. The Light doesn't know racial barriers. There can certainly be Orcish Paladins, but most Orcs simply don't put faith in the Light. There could be Troll Paladins, but again, it would be rare because that's simply not their culture. Blizzard always makes it a point to show that there are exceptions, though.
The Arakkoa, overall, are a pretty grim race. Most of them worship dark gods and all of that, but what do you see in and around Shattrath? Light-worshiping Arakkoa like Rilak the Redeemed.. The Trolls are Shamanistic and are also steeped in voodoo. Despite that, we see Zabra Hexx in the Ashbringer comic series, a Troll Priest that has converted to the Light. Those are just two examples of this. The Light does not judge you by the color of your skin or the size of your tusks. You just need to accept it and stay (mostly) faithful to its tenets.
The Argent Crusade probably has Light-worshiping Priests and Paladins of various abnormal races in its ranks already. Players probably won't be able to play Orc Paladins and such since racial classes are determined by what's most indicative of the race's culture, and Light worship is most definitely not widespread among Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, Night Elves, et cetera. It would be a very rare thing, but certainly possible from a lore point of view.
Ken asked...
The Tribunal of Ages in Halls of Stone revealed that the reason the Titans didn't destroy the Old Gods. If they did, that would destroy all of Azeroth, so they just locked them away. However, in the game we've already killed C'thun and Yogg-Saron is likely to be the final boss of Ulduar. If the trend of mortal races killing Old Gods keeps up, isn't it likely that Azeroth would be destroyed?
There's one advantage we have over the Titans: We are tiny and can fit in small spaces. Do you think a Titan could've snuck inside C'Thun's stomach and taken him down from the inside out? Probably not. Killing C'Thun would've been some long, drawn out, catastrophic uprooting with all kinds of lasers and explosions. We're small enough that our kills can be a bit more surgical... and accidental. Poor C'Thun, undone by his afternoon snack.
It's that, or the world is going to collapse when their corpses start to rot away and we're friggin' screwed. It was nice knowing you, Azeroth.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
Ryan Mar 10th 2009 7:14PM
I think it's inaccurate to say the Titans are too big and powerful to do what we did to C'thun. Many times we've seen the Titans leave behind monitors or minions that are quite similar to adventures fighting C'thun. Take the Avatar of Freya for instance, send a 40 man raid full of her in there and they could down him.
Twolegit Mar 10th 2009 8:50PM
My question is about the zones we can't explore in Azeroth proper.
Both in the EK and Kalimdor there are whole sections of the world map that we not only can't explore, we can't click on them.
I'm wondering what all of these places are (I know Mt. Hyjal is the big one in North Kalimdor) but I am also wondering why we can't go there and if we ever will.
Disgrace Mar 10th 2009 9:01PM
If the next expansion is the maelstrom who do you think will be the main antagonist?I was thinking Queen Azshara but i dont know enough about the lore involved to know if this is realistic.Also if the next expansion is to be the maelstrom do you think it is likely we would get the azshara battleground
Cas Mar 10th 2009 9:50PM
Speaking of the Argent Crusade and paladins, I have a few questions about The Culling of Stratholme instance. If I remember correctly there were undead before the scourge, but crypt fiends, vrykul necromancers and abominations were all products of the Lich King's reign. And how come after you defeat Epoch, that section of Stratholme is already burning-Arthas destroyed all of it.
Lastly, when we finally reach Icecrown, won't the Lich King remember us from when we helped him purge the city?
Olicon Mar 10th 2009 9:56PM
You're a cocky one. Why would the Lich King remembers a mere mortal, let alone the one he met back while he was still a human?
ketsugi Mar 11th 2009 11:03PM
There were no Vrykul in Stratholme, only human necromancers (eg Noth, Gothik, Heigan, etc).
Olicon Mar 10th 2009 9:54PM
Knowing Azerothians have many a times unknowingly almost destroyed the world (Wells of Eternity, anyone? The Zundering? The Dark Portal?) I wouldn't be surprised if they almost did so again because they unwittingly killed the Old Gods.
We have seen what happens when a being of enormous power (Argamaggan, or whatever that damn boar's name was) bit the dust--an entire region got transformed. And he's not even close to the level of the Old Gods yet. For all we know, Azeroth's power might start vaning if the Old Gods are killed, until eventually it won't sustain life any more.
Maybe that's the real reason Malygos is so pissed, since humans using arcane--his very aspect--to destroy the very world he was empowered to protect.
orla Mar 10th 2009 10:08PM
The old gods can not, actualy more should not, be killed. At the end of the ordering (titans came to Azeroth, kicked massive amounts of ass because the old gods were chaotic), they were about to finish them off, but realized that destroying them would destroy the planet as well.
So they decided that instead of finishing them off, an act that would destroy the planet, they would simply seal them in the planet and cut off the power they had. Thats when the titans decided they would play gardener with the new planet they saved and created whatever they felt like, creating various beings to help them out with whatever task. And this is the part where we get into the Curse of Flesh and so forth.
The TL;DR is this: We can beat the crap out of an old god and say "no, get back in your hole," but killing them would doom the planet.
Escaflowne Mar 11th 2009 5:23PM
I have a question I'd like to get an answer to.
Why would Alexstrasza let Nalice(http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=27765#comments) a Black Dragon, into the Wyrmrest Temple? Wasn't the Black Dragonflight the cause of the war(Making Malygos nuts)?
KT Mar 13th 2009 2:27AM
It seems really odd that C'thun could be really dead, when I can die multiple times and come back to wreak my revenge. I'm guessing he just went out for a snack and hasn't bothered to do his corpse run yet. Old Gods don't have the same concept of time, so he might be a while.
rosencratz Mar 15th 2009 9:37AM
I have a question.
Where is Tyr?
He's not one of the as yet known bosses in Ulduar and the quest where we discover the fate of the watches mentions that there was no sign of any struggles in the Temple of Order. Which suggests Tyr hasn't been present for quite a while.
I realise there may not be a definate answer to this question but with the lack of any lore/story coming from the pTR relating to Ulduar as yet i'd be interested to know what folks think Tyr is up to. Was he the first to fall to Loken's betrayal? is he out performing some errand in the name of justice?
Or is he more likely to copout and go mad like Malygos, deciding the mortal races are to blame for the inbalance of the world and try to strike us all down from a new wing next to Archavons.
I rather hope it's something a bit more impressive, maybe he'll lead the attack on Ulduar with us?