Oye! /salute

I agree with basically all the above comments. As a former guild leader of one of those raiding guilds that collapsed, all I can say is it wasn't for want or trying. To each teenager that guild hopped when they didn't get pick for a guild first raid, you lost a little bit. To each one that /gquit when they didn't win that rare mount they probably will never see again, you lost a little bit. To each that when a new office was elected, or guild system changed, through a tantrum in chat before going off to "better horizons", you lost a little bit.

"Backseat guildleaders" I like that term.

You know how generally 85%, at least I imagine, of the time is looking out for the best of the entire guild? The officers. Those same people that log in to 15 tells and a few messages in their mail about being mistreated and tattling on other raid members who did PuG raids, or that can't have alts because if another member found out...oh boy, or that doesn't get the option of logging into that one character they have that's in a different guild to just have casual play or pvp or hell rp! (turncoat!). Show some appreciation, you have to think about your character, and your alts, they have to think of tens, dozens, possibly over a hundred (although in rarer cases since the expacs).

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