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3-25-2009 @ 1:05PM
3-25-2009 @ 5:32PM
This article is one of the greatest pieces of satire I have read in a long time."I am hoping that Cloak of Shadows will be modified to be 100% spell immunity, and that Evasion will provide something more akin to Deflection's bonuses."Classic.One would almost not be able to tell that he isn't actually suggesting a change such as this.The article also goes on to use such hyperbole about the classes lack of survivability and control when in reality has the best CDs, Burst, and Crowd control abilities. It is as if he actually thinks that the overpowered classes (pallies/dks) are some kind of reason that rogues should be brought up to their level. Funny stuff really, I mean if a rogue can't kill every class in a few global cooldowns there most certainly must be a problem.
3-25-2009 @ 3:00PM
Seems to always be a correlation between the first post and a lack of content.
3-25-2009 @ 3:15PM
"L2 Stunlock" although a weak arguement, has its foundation. I'm only replying in regard to the author's QQ about hunters, but as a long-time hunter I can assure you that the hunter community has just as many complaints against your class.Whining about Explosive Shot (except the RNG stun) is just silly, as if you get the jump on us - and yes you can avoid flare and dismanlte our traps at range - you can stunlock a geared hunter from 100-0. Or at worst dismantle my melee and ranged weapon and leave me sitting there unable to Deterrance or fight back. Conversely, yes if I get the jump on you, I can also take you 100-0 using traps, Wyrven and Concussive shots.So if you have any real complaints, please keep them to the spell damage dealers, as we've always been a physical/spell class (Arcane Shot) and are still rock, paper, scissors with each other.
3-25-2009 @ 3:40PM
@Cdog said...I would agree. Hunter fights are completely rock/paper/scissors.
3-25-2009 @ 4:46PM
Maybe that's the problem, not the solution. Is it fun to get stunlocked? If not, then Rogues should definitely be able to use stuns, but their stuns should be shortened and they should have stronger defensive cooldowns so they, and their opponents, actually get to play the game rather than being stunlocked to death, or not. My normal stunlock rotation is so set that I could probably macro it.. so for me it's: sneak up, press button 1, press button 2, stealth, repeat. Is that really the way we want Rogues to play out?
3-25-2009 @ 5:59PM
Have you ever stepped into an Arena Ross? I'm talking about 2100+, Killing someone in a few seconds doesn't work unless your ShadowDance with a frost/Arcane mage helping. Rogues are so weak (defensively), they are still the only class in the game that can get 100-0'ed EVERYTIME within a duration of a stun, I've been killed in Intercept stuns by warriors, L'n'L stuns by hunters, it is ridicules, the amount of times I've died with CloS or Evasion running I really can't count on my hand.On ArenaCast (podcast), the host suggested that rogues should get a version of Focused Will or Primal Tenacity, these are some of the best players in the world (think all of them are in the top 20 on TR, then there is also serenia when I'm sure most people know of), none of them play a rogue but they easily see the faults the rogue class has.It's always easy to stand by idly and go 'LOL ROGUE 100-0 SOMEONE IN STUNLOCK OLOLOLOL, NO BUFFS FOR YOU'But in reality that doesn't happen, not against any decently geared people, again unless your Shadow Dance, and using Shadow Dance in that stunlock, but Shadow Dance is the only ace that tree has, if you don't kill someone/pop an important cooldown (i.e bubble) in Shadow Dance then you lose.But on to the actual topic at hand, what is wrong with 100% clos? or evasion providing deflection? Against any good player CloS IS effectively 100%, no one casts through it but sometimes those random frost nova procs/ Mirror Image Polies etc get through and it's the most frustrating thing in the world. 25% deflection would probably be weaker than 25% miss, but I don't know, maybe you should saw "buffs" and "rogues" in the same article and the "CAN"T LET THIS HAPPEN OLOLOLOL" in your mind went off.
3-26-2009 @ 1:21PM
I agree absolutely with Domilol! I dont even need to express my arguments because i feel that the author did a great job explaining what I just failed to think about. I also agree that stunlocks in general should be changed (only if blizzard wants to continue in their dumbing down of wow). I absolutely hate being stunlocked and then killed without doing a single thing, it simply takes away from the enjoyment however when you're doing it to someone else you get this great satisfaction. I just really hope that all the changes in 3.1 make me want to pvp again. I miss the old seasons, i really do, even when my team didnt win, I still enjoyed it, now I have a team that i've only played for 2 weeks (a complete and utter waste).
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