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3-31-2009 @ 9:19PM
It seems to me that either you have only started playing recently and have an excellent grasp of the history of the game or you have only been in a particular role for a length of the game. Your arguments are very well thought out and particularly persuasive, but you are missing a key element. The 25 man content of Wrath has different bosses than the 10 man content of Wrath does. This may seem confusing at first if you only play as a healer and to some extent a dps. You see the fight from the perspective of this person takes damage or that person does X amount of damage. The tank on the other hand sees an entirely different fight than yourself. For the tank, Patchwerk 10 and Patchwerk 25 are two entirely different fights. On the 10 man, the fight requires less tanks and less coordination because as long as your hp keeps getting topped you are taking the hatefuls as the offtank, and also the damage is very different. On the 25 man, the fight requires 3 tanks and of those tanks there must be similar top end health values or one of the tanks in particular will be taking the vast majority of the hatefuls. The nuances of boss fights and "trash" mobs for a tank from 10 to 25 are noticeable. IF you gear a tank for a 10 man with 25 man gear, then you will see a significant reduction of the level of difficulty. In this case, in addition to your already mentioned reasons you would need to consider how foolish it would be to do 25 man content when the 10 man version is more simple, less difficult, and takes 15 less people IF it gave the same gear.
3-31-2009 @ 9:39PM
This is absolutely true. There are aspects of 25-man raiding that ARE harder than 10-man. To my eyes, this article has put the cart before the horse: the failing is not in offering better gear but in NOT offering a higher challenge so that the better gear is justified. Right now, only some members of the raid have it tougher on 25-man. Others even have it easier. It's no secret Blizz intended to make 25-man harder than 10-man - as the article says, that's their justification for seperate gear - they just haven't got it working yet.What I am worried about is that Blizz hasn't signalled that they are aware of this disparity between what they intended to do and what they've done. I'd feel a lot better about this whole mess if Blizz at least acknowledged that right now, 25-man is only harder than 10-man for some members of the raid.
4-01-2009 @ 3:56AM
They have admitted it loads Arashikou...What i want to know is why 10 man raid runners want ilevel gear that 25 man raid runners get?The 10 man stuff is tuned for ten man raiding, so ten man naxx runners can do 10 man naxx and then 10 man icecrown,etc. The only reason people could want higher ilevel gear from 10 man is because they want to exert less effort for larger stats... numbers, that's it. They claim it's more "fun" if it were more fun they wouldn't complain about the reward, the extra enjoyment would be reward enough. This is just greed to the n'th degree, trolls have seen an oppurtunity where they think whining on this subject at this time might net them better stuff. Do not let them win.Hard mode ten man bosses award 25 man level gear i believe, this is fair enough to me.
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